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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Re: A shorthand puzzle
« on: Saturday 17 March 18 17:32 GMT (UK)  »
I'm a late comer to the confession booth. When the piece was first posted I downloaded and swivelled the image about a bit but there's a drawback in that there are scarcely any light and heavy strokes.  I was a shorthand typist to an engineering buyer for ten years in the 1950s-1960s  I even typed up other people's shorthand notes. As others have said, I too developed my own style when I had occasion for its use again in the 1980s.

It's so frustrating not being able to assist.


The Common Room / Re: Consent of Parents
« on: Thursday 15 March 18 17:59 GMT (UK)  »
Vicars in those days were accepted at the tables of the rich and famous and they wouldn't want any scandal to happen in their church.   I think the church was covering itself against any claims of fraud by an irate parent who might happen to be a "person of substance", thus, regardlesa of the ages of the bride and groom, we see the phrase "with consent of ... ".


Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Trying to locate my Henning family in Hull
« on: Wednesday 14 March 18 23:11 GMT (UK)  »
You might like to make a note of this maritime online database of the merchant navy, which is in the process of publishing crew list names.

Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Trying to locate my Henning family in Hull
« on: Wednesday 14 March 18 11:37 GMT (UK)  »
The one thing that would scupper this is that on the death cert for Ann Henning 19th May 1880 she is given as wife of Charles Henning a shipping clerk. If he had disappeared some 15 years or so earlier why would he be noted on the death cert? seems unlikely.....

I think you might find that it was quite shameful in previous centuries to have to admit your husband left you.  On the other hand he might have convinced his wife that the only job he could secure with the shipping company was as a clerk in the USA and had been sending money back to England.

I have one aunt who told the family her OH had died during WWII sailing on an arctic convoy. He  signed on as a cook although was a surgeon and had actually been in the navy during WWI.  I knew the name of the ship but research showed it plied betwwen Britain and the Mediterrnean Sea.  He actually died in a London hotel after mistakenly taking too many tablets, according to the enquiry.

Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Trying to locate my Henning family in Hull
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 19:19 GMT (UK)  »
The 1861 census shows him as being a ship's carpenter, whch, in the days of wooden sailing ships, could entail his being away at sea.

This website has the 1881 crew list database of all British ships.

I see there are some with the surname Henning.  As most official British records were required to state full name, he might not be noted as Charles/Charlie/Chas but that name would be reflected as an initial "C" for a middle name.

The logs are displayed as images, which is a bit of an eye strain.

The Lighter Side / Re: Why are the dead so interesting?
« on: Sunday 11 March 18 13:08 GMT (UK)  »
Whip that crack away.
Suggest you give some mortar to that mason who'll fix that crack for you  ;D

The Lighter Side / Re: Why are the dead so interesting?
« on: Sunday 11 March 18 12:14 GMT (UK)  »
Come on, lets face it, the ancestors are just "dying" to tell us about our history.  ::) ::) ::)

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Yeah, the deadwood wouldn't they

The Lighter Side / Re: A (true) silly thought
« on: Sunday 11 March 18 02:49 GMT (UK)  »
lol - I got it wrong, I thought Martin was talking about the Masonic wall of silence

The Lighter Side / Re: Why are the dead so interesting?
« on: Sunday 11 March 18 02:25 GMT (UK)  »
It (FH) has also been described as "The democratisation of history"   All   very well   learning about   kings and queens  etc , and battles.. but who  were the  poor  ......s  that did   all the real work? 
I remember  Jeremy Paxman  on  an early WDYTYA, was absolutely seething at the way his ancestor had been referred to as "your  pauper"  and treated accordingly.   If you do not  learn from history, you are condemned to repeat  it!

I'm passionate about the little man too, although I think it began when I read the announcement of my father's death in the magazine his company published.  Usually a death was reported with a potted history of the ex worker's time at the company but all my father got was the notice of his death, no mention of his occupation, or patents, etc.  He had a massive turnout of his co workers at his funeral for which I shall be eternally grateful. 

Thus, all my ancestors and some of their siblings have notes about their lives. Great aunts supplied me with snippets about their grandparents and other kin, such as education, how low the ceilings were, flagged floors, musical instruments played, parties held, how 2d a week pocket money was spent, catching wild birds to supplement their diet, etc., but those born earlier than the 1850s I've had to research information about their homes and livelihoods including their employers or partners in some cases.

I've had some hard lessons too - and that's not to trust online family tree facilities. I had my father's main paternal line goig back to the 1700s on gencircles, another lady was doing a one name study of the name and she had hers on there too but she didn't have the personal notes that mine had.  One day gencircles disappeared and the new owners informed me they'd only bought the name, thus my tree had vanished.

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