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Just looking at some other COLEMAN's born around the same time in the same area, I see there is a James COLEMAN born c1815 (farm bailiff/steward) - in the 1871 census he says born Hingham, whilst in the 1881 he says born Shipdham. Interesting that there should be those 2 places seemingly equated again.

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From their children's birth registrations Mary Ann's maiden name was COL(E)MAN. There is a possible baptism at Carbrooke of Mary Ann COLEMAN on 11 August 1811, parents John and Mary COLEMAN.

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Not sure, looking at the 1851 census - is that the one you mean? It has John born Norfolk Cranworth and Mary Ann in Norfolk Cranbrook. Possibly the enumerator made a mistake in confusing the two place names, they are in Hornchurch Essex, so the enumerator may not have known (or been able to understand their accent).  :-\
HO 107/1772/718 pg 12

Another possiblity for Mary Ann in the 1861 is Hingham (5 miles from Carbrooke, though in the other direction from Shipdham). Spelt without the "H".
RG9/1070/51 pg 7

Modified to add census references in case anyone else wants to have a look.

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I wonder if "Shipton" is meant to be "Shipdham", only 4 miles from Carbrooke. Though, Ingham is no where in the vicinity.

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Ingam, [Ingham] Norfolk.  :-\

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Lancashire / Re: 1841 Census Manchester
« on: Today at 08:17 »
That makes sense "continued" - thanks heywood.  :D

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Lancashire / Re: 1841 Census Manchester
« on: Today at 04:51 »
It looks like Cumberland Court (unclear whether "Court" that is correct) House 7, though the entries before are simply on Cumberland St. You can see Cumberland St here on this 1845 map:
https://maps.nls.uk/view/102344087#zoom=8&lat=4979&lon=6280&layers=BT

And this side by side view:
https://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=17.0&lat=53.47997&lon=-2.24999&layers=6&right=ESRIWorld

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Have you traced Frederick George Barfoot back from 1881 census could he have been married and not free to marry Fanny  ???



Frederick George BARFOOT was baptised 25 July 1851 at Great Canford, Dorset, his mother Elizabeth Mary BARFOOT, single woman. Birth registered Poole (8/67) no mmn.

Elizabeth Mary  BARFOOT married Frederick DUKE 4 Nov 1851 at Great Canford (she was underage and  illegitimate too). Interestingly in the 1851 census Elizabeth Mary and her mother Amelia BARFOOT are visitors with Frederick DUKE at Corfe Hills, Canford.

As noted back at the beginning of the thread, Frederick and Elizabeth Mary DUKE baptise 4 children with surname DUKE in 1859, plus Frederick George BARFOOT on the same day  - so he seems to have been baptised twice.

Frederick George BARFOOT can be found in the 1861 and 1871 census with Frederick and Elizabeth Mary DUKE in Canford (as Frederick G DUKE  in 1861 and George DUKE in 1871).

So there is 7 years between 1871 census in Canford and 1878 in Melton Mowbray where his first son(s) were born and died.

There is this mention of a Frederick George BARFOOT in 1875, in Snow Hill, London. Uncertain whether it is your F G BARFOOT. There is another Frederick George BARFOOT who married Elizabeth Azel SIMS 20 March 1870 at St Bride, Fleet St.
Publication: "The Hour"
Wednesday, 30 June 1875


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  All three might have travelled together and been in Barnsley with at least one child Ellen Barfoot, whom by the way I can find no birth for around 1863-6 in Bottesford or any familiar place.
     

As given earlier:

Ellen's birth was registered in Sculcoates in September qtr 1884. Ellen SMITH mmn BEND.

And bbart obtained the certificate - reply #59.

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