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Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 19:29 »
Always the way Mac.  Fairy tales are so much more interesting than reality!  ::)   ;D

Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 18:51 »
Well there is a marriage of an Edward to a Millicent:-

Marriages Jun 1943   
Burns    Edward    Chisholm    Durham N.    10a   1273    
Chisholm    Millicent    Burns    Durham N.    10a   1273

There are two Burns/Chisholm births in the Durham North registration district.

As I said for Thomas, would need the marriage cert to verify if this is the correct Edward.  I as understand from a previous post, father William probably died in 1938 so he should appear as deceased on the marriage cert.

I am beginning to wonder if your mother got muddled as to which side of the family had son(s) going to the USA.

There is this death for an Edward Burns

Deaths Sep 1982   
BURNS    EDWARD    24 JULY 1921    GATESHEAD    2   268

Same date of birth as the 1939 Register.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 16:17 »
In 1939 Edward Burns was living with his married sister Margaret Leask, so if he went to the USA it was after the 1939 register.

If I have found the correct Thomas he is living with his wife Eileen in Birmingham and this looks like his marriage:-

Marriages Jun 1939   
Burns    Thomas H    Ireland    Birmingham    6d 1673
Ireland    Eileen M    Burns    Birmingham    6d   1673

To be absolutely certain the marriage cert. would need to be obtained.

Looks as though they may have had four children the last being born in 1958.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 15:55 »
Right, so if Mac's mum remembers an uncle and William has died that leaves Thomas or Edward.  This is assuming that the uncle came from the Burns side of the family and not from a different line.

Mac - Is your mum certain that the uncle was a Burns member of the family and not from a different branch?

Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 12:06 »
Okay Mac, feel free to ask for help - lots of willing Rootschatters all happy to help a fellow researcher.  ;D

Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 11:10 »
You are going to have to dig and delve and find out!  ::)

Just going to send you the death cert via your email addy.

Family History Beginners Board / Re: William Burns
« on: Yesterday at 07:07 »
I assume it says his parents are William and Margaret Burns nee Dunlavy?

Although you have his birth certificate it doesn't help with whether he went to the USA.

At Reply #14 Jon found this:-

Doesn't mean that either William died then of course, but on FreeBMD there's only one William Burns death in Chester le Street district from 1911 until 1938 (when it was abolished)
March 1924  Chester le Street 10a 833
Burns, William   
age 22   

Out of sheer curiosity I obtained a pdf for this death and it says the following:-

Where & when died:- Fourteenth January 1924 E.22.D Elisabethmills, Birtley R.D.

William Burns, male, age 22.

Profession:- Colliery Rolleyway man (below surface)

Cause of death:- TB and exhaustion

Informant:-  William Burns, father, present at the death, E.22.D Elisabethmills, Birtley

As you can see the E 22 D corresponds with the electoral register info that Jon found.

Autumn 1923 sees a change.
Polling District C. Parish of Birtley.
Burns, Margaret (residence) E Sec. 22D
Burns, William E Sec. 22D
Burns, William (Junr.) E Sec. 22D

To my mind this would mean that whoever went to the USA it wasn't William.

In family history one has to accept the unexpected - his other brothers will need to be investigated to see where they went.  Memory is a wonderful thing but it is not always reliable especially after a long period of time.

A small example from my family history - my mother always stated that her grandfather was one of twins.  He wasn't and I have birth certificates to prove that.  So her memory was at fault there.

You will need to find out if William's other brothers went to the USA and if any of them married there.   :)

If you would like a copy of William's death certificate, send me a pm with your email address and I will send it to you.

The Common Room / Re: Great Yarmouth shipping 1803 1824
« on: Sunday 11 November 18 08:39 GMT (UK)  »
Have you considered contacting the Norfolk Records Office to see what they have?

01603 222599 during our normal hours.


Postal address
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Link to the website:-

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Smyth in Templeogue Everton in 1931
« on: Sunday 11 November 18 07:52 GMT (UK)  »

Email addresses are not allowed to guard against spamming etc.  You will need to remove it or a moderator will do so.

Mary1976 will need to make another two posts before you can contact her via the private message system.  That's the little white letter symbol next to the person symbol or green when you are online.

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