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Hertfordshire / Old Hall Green
« on: Wednesday 21 November 18 13:04 GMT (UK)  »

In Hertfordshire near Standon there is a small settlement(?) called Old Hall Green.
It has a school called St Edmunds as its main attraction.

I have a Richardson family, the parents of which were Reuben and Emma nee Eldred. Most of their children were baptized at the Roman Catholic Church/Chapel at Old Hall Green and one was also buried there. The PRs are on FindMyPast and are a little interesting to find.

Does anyone know where the church is/was (is it the one in St Edmunds College which did appear to exist in the 1850s)? And, does anyone have any idea where the graveyard is/was?

Any help much appreciated. Keith Jeffery

Essex / Re: Harlow registers
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 22:43 BST (UK)  »

Thanks so much to you for providing that information. I'd never even thought of it.

Best, Keith

Essex / Harlow registers
« on: Sunday 21 October 18 02:04 BST (UK)  »

I may have posted about this, but I can't find it so....

According to several trees on Ancestry, a James Patmore married an Elizabeth Chipperfield in Harlow in 1746. However, there's a problem.... no supporting register printouts.

According to the ERO, the parish chest was stolen in 1814 and the PRs were never recovered. A partial rebuild was done from parish records and other information taking them partially back from 1814 to 1770. These records are on seax.

Does anyone know if there are existent records that may cover the year 1746 and if there was, in fact a marriage between James Patmore and Elizabeth Chipperfield? It is likely that there was a marriage between James Patmore and an Elizabeth as the children's baptism entries have James and Elizabeth. Just to compound the issue, the same trees say that Elizabeth was baptized in Birchanger in 1725. I can't find an entry for Elizabeth in the Birchanger PRs.

Thank you all kindly, Keith Jeffery

Devon / Re: Melhuish of Washfield and brick walls
« on: Wednesday 01 August 18 13:14 BST (UK)  »
I seriously can't promise anything, but I may be going to the Records Office myself in the next month or so.

If you would like me to see what I can do in terms of looking these up I am happy to, but as I say I'm not sure when I'll be going - I have to work for a living  ;D

Thanks for the offer, I do appreciate that.

The FHL has the Oswyn Murray wills filmed - you can get them through the catalog, however you have to go to a Family History Library. That should mean that I can get the will of Robert Melhuish, died 1672.
The will for Margaret Melhuish is a bit more problematic. According to Genuki's Devon Wills Project, the entry for her in FRYA is a list entry only. That probably means that the actual will was destroyed in 1942.
I'm going to the local FHL tomorrow, so I'll see what I find.

Thanks once again for the offer, Keith

Devon / Re: Melhuish of Washfield and brick walls
« on: Wednesday 01 August 18 12:20 BST (UK)  »
So can you get to the Records Office to access the wills for Margaret and Robert Jnr?

No, unfortunately not as I live in Australia. I can get the Records Office to locate and copy the wills or I can get a researcher do do it for me. It's really a case of paying to get them. Although FRYA looks like just a list of wills as it's on FindMyPast. The Oswyn Murray collections looks better as it has at least partial transcriptions, at least the wills I have are such. Pity they didn't use PCC wills. Ah well.

Regards, Keith

Devon / Re: Melhuish of Washfield and brick walls
« on: Wednesday 01 August 18 04:00 BST (UK)  »
Hi Keith,

There is a will for Margaret
Probate year 1687
Source FRYA
Devon Wills Index 1163-1999

It might give some clues to her maiden name through bequests to family members.

Are you sure Margaret was married to Robert senior? There is a their is a will for Robert Junior,
Probate year 1672
Source MUR1
Devon Wills Index 1163-1999
vol 22

As this Robert died before Margaret, it might be that she is mentioned in the will, and might give you a clue about her.

I believe the above docs would be held at the Devon Record Office in Exeter. If not they will know where they are stored.

Hope it helps


Margaret was married to Robert Junior. We have Robert Senior's will from his marriage to Joane Hagleigh (buried in 1654).
Just an aside, Robert senior also married a Katheren who was buried in Washfield in 1601. And, we can't find her.

Ah well, c'est la vie.
Thank you most kindly, Keith

Devon / Melhuish of Washfield and brick walls
« on: Wednesday 01 August 18 00:49 BST (UK)  »
Greetings and thanks for reading,
A brief history. I may have asked this previously, but can't find it in a search....
A Robert Melhuish was born in Washfield in 1618. He was buried in Washfield in May 1673.
He was a son of Robert Melhuish (no birth located - 1654) and Joan Hagleigh (1566-1645).

There is, in Washfield, the burial of a Margaret Melhuish, wife of Robert Melhuish buried 1687.
I think we can assume that Margaret was the wife of the Robert who died in 1654.

I'm trying to find the name, birth/baptism and marriage of the Margaret, buried 1687.

I have looked for her in several places, FindMyPast, DFHS, Ancestry, Familysearch, Devon OPC.
I've also looked at parishes in Somerset along and close to the Devon border.

If anyone has any information that may help, it would be greatly appreciated.

Keith Jeffery

Australia / Re: Ann Walker born about 1830 died 1859
« on: Wednesday 27 June 18 13:37 BST (UK)  »
Who raised these small children after mother died?. Did father Joseph marry again?

Yes he did, but not until 1876 when he married Agnes Cole a widow nee McAllister.

Joseph Lawless was pardoned in 1852. A daughter was born on 25 Dec 1854. Mother's name given was Ann Walker. No name was given on the birth but she was baptized as Sarah Ann aka Mary Ann. On 19 January 1857, a male child was born. Mother's name given was Ann Walker, baptism has him named as Thomas. A female was born on 19 April 1859, baptism stating her name as Ann. Ann Walker died the next day of complications . All three children were baptized by Edward Freeman as protestants at St Clements Church Kingston where the records are held.
In Ann's inquest, she died at Joseph Lawless's house at Castle Bay of bleeding associated with the childbirth.
From notes "What Joseph's situation was, or how he lived, or if he looked after the children is not known".

Aside from a few minor details, that's pretty much all we have.
Best, Keith

Australia / Ann Walker born about 1830 died 1859
« on: Wednesday 27 June 18 07:13 BST (UK)  »
We're trying to track down the ancestry of one Ann Walker in Tasmania born about 1830, died 1859. We have no idea at this point where she came from. As far as we can tell, she was not a convict.

In about 1850 odd, she started cohabiting with one Joseph Lawless, a convict (there is no marriage and, in her inquest, she is still Ann Walker). They had 3 children Mary Ann, Thomas and Annie, all born Lawless. She died in 1859 from complications in the childbirth of Mary Ann. From Thomas, most of the Lawlesses in Tasmania are descended, while from Annie most of the Seabournes (lots of spelling variants) in Tassie and NZ are descended.

Also as far as we can tell, she was not a child of James Walker and Esther Tucker who came to Tassie in 1826 on the John Barry as a member of the Veterans Company with two children, James and John. There is a child Ann from this pairing, however she married Joseph Beamer, had 3 children and later cohabited with George Harwood (both Joseph and George were convicts) and had about 12 children according to LINC and the Colebrook church records.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers, Keith

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