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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Sunday 06 August 23 10:00 BST (UK)  »

The Canadian Census years were 1911, 1921 and 1931.
There is a Canadian Prairie census of 1916 for Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Alberta.
Mona was in Ontario so no other document available online.

Did try and investigate the St Clair part of her name in relations to those families but sadly drew a blank.  :-\

Sandra
Thank you. I saw the 1916 Prairie census too.
I think some time ago  I saw   that there was a church or cemetery named St Clair somewhere that had a connection to Mona .

 That's very vague but at the time I hadn't got into all of this parentage confusion with her so didn't take that much notice.



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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Thursday 03 August 23 21:32 BST (UK)  »

Sadly that link only shows the marriage certificate of Mona St Clair Springett to Charles James Stobbs  Jack Mason and Eleanor Laing were listed as her parents on that.  Same as partial copy in reply 1

The death of Bella was a sad one  :'(

Sandra
I realised that afterwards when I saw it said "child".
Is there any way I could try and find Mona between her birth in 1912 ( we think ) and 1921?
Another census perhaps ?
Thank you for all your help.

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Tuesday 01 August 23 21:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you.

Unless there is a marriage record for Jack Mason to Eleanor Laing, someone probably wrote or heard the wrong name. Have you seen an actual marriage record showing those names ?
If you have can you give a link or post a copy please.

There is already a discrepancy over the fathers name on Alma's marriage document !!

The maiden name of the mother of Alma was wrong on her death certificate, should be Margaret and they put May Laing !!!
 
The mother in law details were put on the death certificate for Mona when it asks for the maiden name of her mother !!

I wonder if John and Alma ever got divorced. It was so expensive then, sometimes people didn't bother  :-\
Someone else probably filled in the information on the 1940/50 census forms !!

Other petitions, declarations etc say John Mason was not married which seems correct.

The family of Harry William Springett don't even mention Alma as his wife in his obituary, they only mention the late Isabella !! Strange !!

So as I said before, "Never believe everything you read on census or other documents,  the information is only as good as the informants knowledge or who fills that information in"
 

 


Sandra
Thank you.
Yes, I noticed they didn't mention Alma.
I found a newspaper obituary for Bella Springett and it seems she died from self inflicted throat injuries😔

Ancestry brought up this in hints.
I can't find the record on FamilySearch even though it appears they have Ontario ,Canada
marriages indexed  for that period.

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Tuesday 01 August 23 00:00 BST (UK)  »

So on the 1950  census he states he's a widow, however Alma Mason nee Laing married Charles W Stobbs in 1920.

It was the daughter Mona who married Charles James Stobbs.  Alma was the mother of Mona.

Sandra
Sorry , I should have said he states he's a widow , but Alma Mason nee Laing  married Harry William Springett in 1921.

According to Mona's marriage record Eleanor (not Alma) Laing was her mother.

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Monday 31 July 23 14:18 BST (UK)  »
1918 US WW1 Draft for John Norman Mason - names sister Lucy - person who will always know him.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9BR5-R4P?i=4715&cc=1968530&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AKZNG-545

On a petition in 1939 he mentions married alma in Shelborne NS 1906 (as per petition - see below)

1940 census  - Boston Suffolk Massachusetts

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4JR-ZBT

WW2 Draft -

John Norman Mason -Birth Date   1 Mar 1881   Lunenberg, Canada
Residence Place   Suffolk, Massachusetts
Military Draft Date   1942
Next of Kin   Mrs Francis Ryan


1950 census - Boston Suffolk Massachusetts

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6F33-B9WQ
I found a birth registration on the Nova Scotia vital statistics link . John Norman Mason b 1881 but registering his own birth in 1924..He gives his address as Boston Massachusetts.
He actually has 2 birth registration records  as his sister Lilly L also  registered it in 1945.

So on the 1950  census he states he's a widow, however Alma Mason nee Laing married Charles W Stobbs in 1920.

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Monday 31 July 23 14:02 BST (UK)  »
Female birth record for 27 March 1912 Shelburne Nova Scotia
parents John Mason and Alma Laing

https://archives.novascotia.ca/vital-statistics/birth/?ID=277283


Sandra
I saw that , but I thought we'd now defintely established (from her marriage record) that Mona's parents were Jack Mason and Eleanor Laing. 

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Monday 31 July 23 11:41 BST (UK)  »
Lewis Gordon Springett - Birth Date   8 Mar 1912 Halton, Ontario, Canada
Father    Harry William Springett Mother    Bella De Foust.

If that was the correct birth for Lewis/Louis, then there should be a female birth - it looks like they were the same age - twins ?

marriage of Harry and Bella was 2 April 1912

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS8H-3ML

Sandra
But Mona's parents were Jack Mason and Eleanor Laing, so she couldn't be a twin to Lewis. Am I not understanding what you're saying?


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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Monday 31 July 23 11:36 BST (UK)  »


1921 census York Ontario

Harry William Springett   31   Head
Alma Springett 33   Wife
Harry Springett 11   Son
Mona Springett 9   Daughter
Louis Springett 9   Son

https://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e003055537

Sandra
I'd just added that Alma , Harry and Mona were together on the 1921 census. I noticed that both Mona and Louis ( he's sometimes Lewis ) were born the same year.

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Canada Lookup Request / Re: Mona St Clair Springett marriage record
« on: Monday 31 July 23 11:29 BST (UK)  »
Quote from: *Sandra* link=topic=875103.msg7468256#msg7468256 pp0date=1690797529

However...........on the death certificate, the details vary

Yes. I saw this.
Annie Jackson is Mona's  MIL ie the mother of Charles Stobbs. I assumed they'd put that because they couldn't remember her mother's name , but it would have made more sense to put Isabella de Forrest who was Harry Wm Springetts wife as that' s who they've documented as her father? Rather strange.

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