RootsChat.Com

Great to hear from you. I am still trying to find birth records for  the elusive Margaret Ann Allen. Hope all well your end

Thanks for this. We have copies of all the children's baptism records. However we can't find any trace of Margaret registered in Glenleary or for that matter Daniel her husband. We have no further information on Daniels parents lineage. We know daniel and Margaret Anne were married in that  area and she died there as her grave is there w ex also have her death certificate   but nothing else. It would be good to follow the evidence. She may have come to the area from Lancaster as there is a farmer called Allen listed in the census with a daughtersame name as Margaret. Who knows without confirmation it is difficult to assume?

We have this information including marriage certificates for Daniel and Peggy and baptism records for all of Daniel and Peggy's children what I am missing is Margaret Anne's (Peggy's birth records) if i had this i could evidence her as the child of Robert and Elizabeth otherwise it is just conjecture

Hello, we're still following this avidly, after "butting in" a while ago in respect of our interest in Robert Allen of Glenleary and the possible  (father-daughter?) link with our Margaret Ann[e] Allen (sometimes 'Peggy', never 'Maggie'......). And our interest is because she became Margaret/Peggy McMichael and now rests [alone] in the smallest graveyard in front of Macosquin Pres. Ch.

Anyway, I know the thread is on a different tack just now - equally intriguing - but reading the discussion about (Isa-)Bella Allen and her marriage cert, I checked pictures my husband took in Macosquin Presbyterian last May, and (I am sure LyndeL and aghadowey will have seen this - attempting photo upload) - but it struck me the name of the female witness on the church register was a "Mary McMichael." Now someone called Mary McMichael was -  definitely - the firstborn of Peggy (ne้ Allen, daughter of Robert) with Daniel McMichael. And - relying on Peggy Allen's marriage cert - Mary is a granddaughter of someone called "Robert Allen, a farmer, of Glenleary". (Granted, as Lindel has said, the possibility of two Robert Allens in Glenleary in the 1850s onwards isn't impossible though we haven't found two distinct evidence groups either...)

Mary herself was born 1870 and baptised in Macosquin Presbyterian Church where the family then resided til the 1890s. So, she's born 3 yrs before Bella, then married 2 years after her and is (conjectural) at one with the witness at Bella's marriage. The dates are not bad. 

If the tempting links and our suppositions (that Peggy may just possibly be a sister of Sarah albeit 'missing' from other records discussed above) are right, then this could theoretically be Mary witnessing her cousin's wedding. Which may be further circumstantial evidence for a link, ie Robert Allen's & Betty Henry's family, with Peggy McMichael's descendants. This is added to the fact, mentioned above, that her second sister [Bessie McMichael] bore the middle name 'Henry'.

Except for that "Father - John Smith" reference which does rather upset things. So my husband will be very interested how the "John Smith" dimension is resolved.... As I say - intriguing.

We suppose there is a connection as the Margaret Allen we have is the daughter of a Robert Allen, a farmer of Glenleary. This is known from her wedding certificate. But apart from that known connection we haven't made a more positive connection than this. We know Robert Allen married Betty Whose surname was Henry and they had several children around the 1850's. But it is true we haven't yet found a record of Margaret among them. We do have her age when she married and her age when she died but unfortunately these are slightly inconsistent meaning we only know she was born between 1849 and 1853. One possible sign of a connection with Robert Allen and Betty Henry is that our Margaret Allen baptised her 3rd daughter ( Bessie McMichael) with the unusual middle name Henry which of course is the maiden name of Robert Allen's wife. If Margaret Allen is not the daughter of Robert and Betty then there was a second person named, Robert Allen, a farmer, from Glenleary having children at a very similar period but we have found no other records pointing to this. If you have good details about Robert and Bettys children we would be interested if only to rule out whether Margaret could possibly be a missing daughter of Robert and Betty.