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The Common Room / Re: "British Schools"
« on: Friday 25 August 17 11:03 BST (UK)  »
Thank you all for your responses, they really help to put Mary's work in context.
Although Catholic myself I went to a C of E primary school in our little town that was originally founded under a bequest of an 18th century philanthropist. It's now been rebranded as the "Anne Harris" Educational Trust in her memory.

The Common Room / "British Schools"
« on: Thursday 24 August 17 11:22 BST (UK)  »
A cousin, Mary Thiery Moger, was listed at her marriage, 30th April 1846, Castle Str Independent Chapel Abergavenney, as a teacher of the girl's British School. I tried googling this, but could not find out any more about these institutions. As a lecturer myself, I have a particular interest in teaching ancestors and would like to know more about Mary's work. As a further personal link, Mary's husband, Jacob Myers, was born in Poland, like my father!

Gloucestershire / Re: Mary Ann McGill, nee Davis, of Bristol
« on: Thursday 24 August 17 10:58 BST (UK)  »
Thank you for your reply.
If you could supply further details I would be very grateful.
As a quid pro quo I can supply details of Mary's offspring by her first two marriages. (My much loved grandfather, George McGill,  was the son of James Thomas McGill, Born 6th February 1862, mother stated as Mary Anne McGill, late McGll, formerly Davis - which rather spells it out).
This has been a rather frustrating brick wall.
The Bristol urban proletariat are not so easy to pin down. The McGills go back to a Glaswegian sailor who jumped ship at Bristol in 1793.
In contrast I have been able to trace multiple lines of descent of his spouse, who came from a small Somerset town, back to the 16th century.

I more I less got the first line, it was the second that I couldn't quite make out.
From the other listings it was clear that it referred to animals. Coia really had me stumped!
For the keeping of four draught animals sounds spot on.
A later survey of the manor during the Commonwealth (fortunately in English and in much clearer handwriting) goes into detail about the rights individual copyholders had to graze different types of animals on the commons.

Thank you for bringing this to my attention.
I am not aware of a Chichester connection, but it's certainly worth investigating.
I've found other clergy in my family tree who moved around the country more than most.

I am trying to find out more about Alexander Wickstead,
Two PCC wills are on line;
21st March 1609/10; ALexander Wicksted, clerk, now bound to sea to the East Indies.
3rd February 1612/3; Alexander Weekestede, preacher of the word of God on the good ship called the Peppercorn.
In a printed account of the voyage Alexander is described as minister, however I have been able to find no record of an ordination in the clergy database on line. A retired vicar suggested that, as he was going overseas, he may have fallen under the jurisdiction of the bishop of London.
Any suggestions of further avenues of research would be appreciated.

London and Middlesex / Middlesex Leases in the Archbishops of Canterbury Act Books
« on: Wednesday 09 August 17 13:54 BST (UK)  »
I came across a reference to a William Wickstead, who I think may be my direct ancestor, in an on-line Index 5o the Act Books of the Archbishops of Canterbury, 1663-1859, vol 2, L-Z, 1680 Middlesex Leases 4, 116. Could anyone please tell me whether the actual leases have been published?

Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / 1611 rental of the manor of Welton, Somerset
« on: Wednesday 09 August 17 13:44 BST (UK)  »
Help appreciated in transcribing/translating the second line of the holding of Thomas Catley in the manor of Welton, included in the rental of 1611 taken for the Duchy of Cornwall.

Thank you all for your suggestions.
I also thought that it might be Clr, meaning "clerk".
There were no other abbreviations in the pages that I scanned.
However, a previous entry in the Burton register refers to the burial, on 18th November 1618, of a clerk to Mr John, Mr George and Sir William Massie.
William first appears in the Burton register in 1622, when one of his daughters was baptized, so he could have been the deceased clerk's successor.
William's 1629 Cheshire will describes him as a "gent", rather than a clerk, so I had assumed that he was not ordained, but rather a clerk in the modern sense. There is also no record that he attended a university or took holy orders in the clergy databases.
It would be intriguing to know how he entered the Masseys' service. Wrenbury his home parish, is some distance from the Wirral. I looked, but could find no family connection, by blood or marriage, that might have brought him too their attention.

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