RootsChat.Com

Quote from: *Sandra* on Tuesday 23 May 17 21:34 BST (UK)

Family Search have the family listed in Smith County Tennessee 1850 

James Robinson   40    Ann Robinson   43   
Elisa Robinson   19    William Robinson 18   
Caroline Robinson 15    Joseph Robinson    10   
James Robinson   7    Elnora Robinson   4   

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MCDZ-GZ2

Sandra

Takes a while to type it out. 

The National Archives website shows that SMITH AND STEWART counties were in a section together.

I actually found the original image and it DOES say IN THE COUNTY OF STEWART across the top.

That was driving me a little batty.  I know have a county map of TN and lower KY printed out that I am using.  I am finding it truly difficult not to get them mixed up with the LOUDON/ROANE county Robinson.  Wondering if there were a sibling split at some point? 

I am unable to locate ANY death or burial info for James or Ann.  I even tried using ROBERTSON (which their marriage license was filed under). It is ROBINSON on the 1860 and 1850 census.  But Roberson on the 1900.  eesh.

Is there a way to figure out what the dwelling number map was for these census takers?  Like they were dwelling 272 in Stewart county that was visited.  Is there a way to figure out where that dwelling was/  I realize it might not still actually be a home/building anymore.  But was it in the town?  In the more rural areas?  Is that even possible to determine?

LeahRaye, think you should just check the 1850 census.  You have the right family but they are in Stewart TN, not Smith County TN.  There is about 140 miles between Stewart & Smith Counties.

I cannot locate any results in Stewart county?

Quote from: *Sandra* on Monday 22 May 17 21:45 BST (UK)

Just to note also that many of those ancestry trees showing the parents as James Russell Robinson and Ann Maria Ragan have James Robinson born 1817 -  the birth date cannot be correct if this couple married 27 August 1829  Dickson, Tennessee.  The surname on this record is Robertson
The other James Robinson would have been born 1809 according to the 1860 census. 

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VNZV-47G

Sandra

Sandra could I suggest that the online trees are mixing up the James Robinsons. The online trees (the few that I have looked at) have his burial in Loudon County, some 30 miles from Roane county, but which is some 250 miles from Stewart county.  The ages on the 1850 & 1860 census (acknowledging the Robertson/Robinson names) would allow and 1829 marriage.

Yes, I am negating the 1817 James Robinson.

Using the James Robinson (Robertson on the marriage register is mistake?  Or is the ROBINSON on all of the census' mistake?  Did they make a change to the last name somewhere?) born in 1809 I can locate on the 1850 census in Smith County, TN HH 272 line 35
James 40
Ann 43 (born 1805)
Eliza 19 (but shows 24 on 1860 census)
William 18
Caroline 15 (1860 census show James Johnson and Caroline Married in HH of James)
Joseph 10
James 7
Elenora 4 (Ellen on 1860)

The 1860 census shows JAMES 51 as "PoorHouse Keeper"  Could that account for the Suelen and random folks listed too?  I cannot locate this James' death date or any info for them on the 1870 census.

James (b 1842) married Roxina Art (RA LILLIE) in Princeton KY on 04/23/1867. 
Birth of Luther Riley in 1874 in Trigg KY.
1880 census, Big Rock, Stewart Co, TN HH 13382316, page 231b
James 35
Roxina Art 26
Liddia 7
Luther 5
Logan 4
Augusta 0

No 1890 census.

1900 Census
"Roberson" HH 169 pg 9A, District 5 Stewart KY.
James 57
Roxina 55
"Melvin" 18 (William Melvin)
"Willard" 17 (Millard Fillmore)

By 1910 James and Roxina had died and were buried in TN (1904) and KY (1907). 

1910- William Melvin is in Peggs, Cherokee, OKLAHOMA on the census with wife and children.
William 28
Minnie 26
Hallie 9
Carter 7
Wiley 5
But he is buried back in TN while his wife is buried in OK.

I am going to try for the obits suggested by Sandra (thank you!) for James R and Roxina.  It's the going BACK I am having trouble with, feel like I am struggling to keep all of this straight.  I stopped updating the ancestry site for now and using the FAMILYSEARCH to keep it all straight for now.   

Ray, Thank you for the geographical info on TN, I have started using a map too because of the common names.

Wow, that's a lot of good info.  I am unsure where to go from here as I don't know if any of those are right.

I don't even know how to type this all out, so please have patience.

I can prove back to great grandfather with obits and sibling lists.

James R Robinson (6/7/1842 - 11/6/1904) Married Roxina Lillie/Lilly (1844-1907) in Caldwell Co, KY on 4/23/1867.  I have obits that state her name was spelled LILLY but her headstone actually says LILLIE.

Their children were:
Luther Riley Robinson (7/5/1874-5/31/1947)
William "Yankee" Melvin Robinson (1882 - 9/9/1942)*My grandfathers father
Millard Fillmore Robinson (1883-1955) *located on 1920 census in Stewart TN, aged 37

The parent of James R (b 1842) was James (b 1824 in that history page) with siblings named Susan (1819-1886) and John Wesley (1828-1906).  Somehow I have his birth year as 1817 but the jpeg list does show two matching siblings but James born in 1824, making him 18 when James R was born. Nancy, Minerva, and Mary would account for the gap between Susan and John Wesley on my list.

But that history shows James R Born 1842 only had one child?  Robert King?  Am I reading it right?
And did those daughters, Nancy, Minerva, and Mary, MARRY other Robinsons???