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Would it be possible to attach the marriage certificate to the post?
As some of the witness named is a bit hard to read but don't know if it's possible or allowed by RC

You may post a small portion of the certificate to help with deciphering.

Samuel Patrick O'Neill married as such in 1948 - however, there is no birth entry in this full name ca.1921/22 in England (or Ireland) suggesting he may well have added the second name himself or maybe it was an added name at baptism which he didn't generally use - again, who knows?
Not saying that the Samuel O'Neill born in Salford district isn't the correct person but Northern Ireland births after 1921 do not appear in online indexes. Also Scotland to consider?
A Samuel O'Neill born 1920 Belfast-
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FB1N-4WY

There were at least 2 Samuel Patrick O'Neills born Scotland in 1920s.
my father seems to think Samuel was born in Scotland  could this shred any light to this puzzle ?
Regards

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Hi thanks for the reply... My mum and dad said her dad was defiantly born Salford and met Tacy while over in Ireland with the navy
Thanks again guys 👍🏼

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For what it's worth, these are my thoughts re. Samuel Patrick O'Neill.   You already knew he was in the Merchant Navy and the marriage certificate would confirm this - also, from this we now know at the time of the marriage on 17/3/1848  he was 26 i.e. born late 1921 or early 1922.

From the get go I have wondered why they moved from Ireland to Salford - why Salford?   Is this because it's where Samuel himself hailed from?   I think it may well indeed be that.

A plain Samuel O'Neill born 22/11/1921 died in Salford in April 1985.
A plain Samuel O'Neill birth reg'd Dec.qtr.1921 Salford - mmn Platt.

A Samuel O'Neill married a Sarah Jane Platt in the June quarter 1920 Salford - their son Samuel born 1921 seems to have been their only child and both Sarah and son are in Salford 1939 (unable to give details here due to copyright).   Sarah Jane Platt seems to have been born in Salford ca.1897 but the only death entry I can see for a Samuel O'Neill in Salford was one bc.1868 who died Mar.qtr.1924 Salford which datewise could explain why Samuel and Sarah had only one child but this would mean that Samuel senior was some 30 years older than Sarah??   Who knows?  It's possible, of course, but only the marriage certificate of Samuel and Sarah can help here.

Samuel Patrick O'Neill married as such in 1948 - however, there is no birth entry in this full name ca.1921/22 in England (or Ireland) suggesting he may well have added the second name himself or maybe it was an added name at baptism which he didn't generally use - again, who knows?

I still think that 'Salford' is the key here - why would Tacy and Samuel (a merchant navy man) settle in Salford unless one of them had links there - we know it wasn't Tacy herself whereas the Samuel born 22/11/1921 to Samuel O'Neill and Sarah Jane Platt was born/lived there and presumably his widowed mother was still there when they moved there in 1951.

It all makes sense to me but will see what others following this thread think.

Annette   

 
Hi Annette
Thank you for replying .. I sincerely appreciate all the help & time you guys have put into this topic for me & mum  you have all been amazingly kind  thank you 👏🏼👏🏼  I was told off mum her father was originally from Salford surname was neill and the O got added for some reason..  Mum also believed her parents were married in Salford England. Which isn't the case.
I suppose back in those days you just took what ever little your parents told you were the truth etc as she also  said she had an Aunt Nelly Roecliffe so it has been confusing ???
Mum also believed her great grandmother Roecliffe had originated from America  ???
Would it be possible to attach the marriage certificate to the post?
As some of the witness named is a bit hard to read but don't know if it's possible or allowed by RC
Policy.
Massive thank you once again to each & everyone of you
Xx

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 Hi Guys certificate arrived Marriage - 17/3/1948  - Samuel Patric O'Neill age 26 - Bachelor - seaman- father Samuel O'Neill profession - Labourer (decd)

Tacey Sarah  Rocliffe - age 34 - Spinster -  Father - William Rocliffe - profession - Bookbinder (Decd)
Much appreciation to everyone

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The one certificate you really need is that of their marriage in 1948 - from this you'll get his age, plus the name of his father. 

Annette
Think the first marriage was to a Curry there is a Curry/ Rocliffe birth 1945, don't want to post the name if still living.

If there was a marriage to a Curry, then the second marriage wouldn't be as Rocliffe would it, it would be as Curry?

Yes that's the one that's an aunt  only found out the name curry tonight also   Was there  a mention of any other children in that marriage  groom?
And thank. You  ;D
Posted 1st class recorded for the tacy marriage certificate so hopefully should get via email posted last Thursday 🙏🏼 want to thank each & everyone of you guys for your help you have all been amazing 👌🏼 can't show enough appreciation for your time & effort you guys put into helping people Like me thank you so very much hopefully the certificate will give more  insight to this family confusion 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

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The address where to send it is on the form. Most British people fill in that form and pay by card and post it to the Roscommon address on the form. The 4 Euros that comes out usually appears as 3 pound something on my bank statement. Great value for money.


Blue
Thanks Blue
Iv filled it in going to send it recorded can't wait till its posted 😀 To be honest pal
But much appreciation for your info & time 👍🏼

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Ireland / Re: Trying to find a Marriage Certificate in Dublin
« on: Thursday 02 November 17 19:47 GMT (UK)  »
I thought this site was to help NOT hinder.
Have you lot ever asked for anything twice!!!!

Bambam.........a Private Message will be with you soon.
Maggsie
Hi Maggisie
Much appreciated my thought entirely..
I believe if you haven't got anything nice to say then don't bother saying nothing 🤐
I personally felt a touch just a touch humiliated by a member that had ignored 2 pm's - yet follow's me to another thread to Quote "it's a 6 page thread with the link & say knock yourself out!
Why not write it in the pm as it was the same I wrote on the thread only 10 minutes before....
People need to walk in a persons shoes to know where  there head as been the past year..
But still have respect for others feelings...
But some people do not have empathy or Compassion - good job there are still some kind & "patient" people in the world X

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Have you got a debit or credit card? You can use that instead. Whenever I get Irish records I get a 4 Euro photocopy of the record and pay using my debit card. I fill in this form and post it:-

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/images/content/GRO_Documents/Form_for_DAHG_site.pdf

I tick the e-mail box so they e-mail it to me. It's a great service and much cheaper than our records.


Blue
Thank you so very kindly Blue70 👍🏼
That's the form you already filled in.
No I didn't fill it in I gave it all with details to my friend but told her to have it sent to my email address

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