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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Thursday 06 December 18 11:34 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,
Just a quick update as earlier in this thread we mentioned the 'Earls of Castlehaven'. I have just obtained a copy of a book published in 2018 titled 'The Earls of  Castlehaven, Lords Audleys of Cork and Kildare, From the Battle of Kinsale to the Great Famine and beyond'. The Author is a Michael Christopher Keane, who appears to live near Cork.
This will be my Christmas reading; from a quick look at the book it apears a comprehensive history of the Earls and may be of interest to those of you who responded to my initial question with information about the Earls of Castlehaven.
Thanks for all you replies to my initial query.

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Friday 23 November 18 18:59 GMT (UK)  »
Hallmark,
Many thanks for the second link. Using the second link I managed to find the Document that contains the marriage

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Friday 23 November 18 16:36 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Chinapaddy and Hallmark,
Thanks for both for your last replies.

Chinapaddy -  The stone that was laid to the memory of  George Audley that you refer to is definately the George Penlington Audley who was born in Nantwich, Cheshire in 1776.  The reason I am so sure is that the Executor of his will was his sister who also had Penlington as a second forename. (Penlington being the maiden name of their mother) I think it is almost certain that that the George Audley who died in 1806 is the same George Audley who was in the Cheshire Fensibles and who married Margaret Blair. Hopefully The records of the Cheshire Fensible Regiment, will give documentary evidence of this. One thing I do not understand is why George Audley made his sister the executor of his will and not his wife.

Hallmark - The previous information that was given on 15th November by 'Celtic Liberty' from the Constitution Newspaper refers to the bride as Margaret Audley and gave no information as to her marital status. Thanks for confirming that at the time of Margaret Audley's marriage she is described as Mrs. Can you please advise the source of your information?

'Celtic Liberty' in her quote from the Constitution Newspaper has:
At Desert Church Thomas Blair Patterson of Capinaweel, in Cork county married Margaret Audley of Bantry and
you have told me that Thomas Blair Patterson of Fanlobus (Dunmanway) Bantry married Mrs Margaret Audley
Is Fanlobus (Dunmanway) Bantry the same place as Capinaweel?
From your source did the marriage take place at Desert church?
Regards

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Friday 23 November 18 11:24 GMT (UK)  »
Hallmark,
Thanks for the Clarification, I now understand what you were telling me.

My current theory is that George Audley was baptised in 1776 in Nantwich, Cheshire. He joined the Cheshire Fencibles. The Cheshire Fencibles were posted to Bantry, where George Audley met a local girl, Margaret Blair, they married in Christchurch Cork in 1802.  I believe that the Cheshire Fencibles were disbanded in either 1801 or 1802, hence they moved back to England (Liverpool), where their son (George) was baptised in 1803.  For some reason George then joined the Royal Newfoundland Regt of Fencible Infantry and died 26th May 1806 at Fort Ann, Annapolis, Nova Scotia.  In his will he leaves everything to his wife and child, but unfortunately his will does not give their names.
His wife Margaret then a widow moved back to Bantry (presumably to her parents) and remarried to Thomas Blair Patterson in 1825.

To me the above information hangs together well although still needs a bit of checking.
The key questions for me are:
What the Margaret Audley who married Thomas Blair Patterson in 1825, a widow and
What happened to the Son (George) of George  Audley and Margaret Blair? Could he be the George Audley who married in 1826 to Sarah Robinson in Waterford?

I am slowly building a logical story.

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 21:52 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Chinapaddy and Hallmark,
Thanks for your most recent messages.

Hallmark - With regard to your links to the Cork Archives. Are you saying that there is something specific in the Cork Archives relevant to George Audley and/or the Cheshire Fencibles or are you just informing me of the Cork Archives website?

Chinapaddy - Thanks to the Rootschat message from 2009. I have now looked at the references in the London Gazette and they just record his rise through the ranks. If I can get to see the muster rolls in the Archives at Kew it will hopefully tell me where he was before joining the Cheshire Fencibles and where he went after they were disbanded.

Hallmark - Regarding your link to the durrush history website. I can see some information about the Cheshire Fencibles but could not find anything about George Audley. Have I missed something?

Hallmark - Thanks to the link to the Rootschat topic 657008.0. I must admit I had already found that thread and it was from that topic that I got the references for the Cheshire Fencibles  at the National Archives in Kew.

Thanks to both for your help

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 19:57 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,
Just a quick update. I have now managed to see a copy of the Newspaper identified by Chinapaddy. It would appear that George Audley was a member of the Cheshire Fencibles.
However the article does not give much more information.

I have alsi dscovered that the Muster Rolls for the Cheshire Fencibles 1974 to 1802 are in the National Archives in Kew London.

I think it will be next year before I manage to make the 500 mile round trip to the archives

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Thursday 22 November 18 09:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Chinapaddy,

Thanks for your message, as I live close to Chester I will see if the Record Office, has a copy of the article.

Regards
Brian

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Monday 19 November 18 22:19 GMT (UK)  »
Hi All,
Many thanks to all who in the in the last week have replied to my message. I have now managed to copy all your new information into my master file.

Regards
Brian Audley

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Cork / Re: What newspaper is referenced as CMC
« on: Saturday 17 November 18 18:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi,
Many thanks to all for all the additional information you have all provided it is going to take me a while to follow up all the links and add the new information to my master file.
My surname is Audley and my family moved in to Liverpool England around 1800 from Cheshire, England and as a result of that search I found the baptism in 1803 of George the son of George Audley and Margaret Audley formerly Blair.

The family of the Lord Audley (Formerly Earls of Castlehaven) is of secondary importance to me as by that time their surname was no longer Audley but Thicknesse-Touchet.

The person I am most interested in is Captain George Audley who married Margaret Blair in 1802. Could he in some way have been related to the Lord Audley family? I have some evidence from pre Castlehaven days that some of the children of Lord Audley used Audley as their surname rather than Touchet.
In his marriage George Audley is described as a Captain. Is there anyway to identify whether he was the Captain of a Ship, or a Captain in the Army?

Regards
Brian

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