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Hi Heywood and Maidenstone,
Many thanks for your last two replies I had always assumed that baptisms would be in date order it never occurred to me that each priest would maintain his own list in date order.

Thanks for all your help I an currently gaining more information about the descendants of John Audly and Joan (Jane ) Starkey who emigrate to  America. I will be comming back to this thread as I update my master file.

Have a great 2020

Hi All,
On 22nd December 2019 at 20:27 hrs and at 20:30 hrs ‘Heywood’ gave links to 3 deaths in New York the parents of the indviduals who died are recorded as John Audley and Jane Sharkey (Sharberg) and I have been comparing these three death with the baptisms of the children of John Audley and Joan Sharkey given by ‘Elwyn Soutter’ in his message of  22nd December 2019 at 19:01 hrs
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The first link given by ‘heywood’ is to the death of a Francis (male) Audley on 28th August 1916 aged 75 giving a year of birth of 1840 or 1841; if the age at death is correct. Place of birth given as Ireland Mother’s name given as Jane Sharkey

‘Elwyn Soutter’ gives the baptism of a Frances  (presumably female) the Child of a John Audly and Joan Sharkey as 27th December 1830.

Could someone please check this information and give me their thoughts on the following:
In the baptism records given by ‘Elwyn Soutter’ as they were written in Latin could the mothers name in the baptism records be Jane and not Joan?
In the baptism record for Frances (female) in 1830 is there any thing to indicate that the person being baptised could have been Francis (male) and not Frances (female)?
The death record for Francis indicates that he was born in 1840 or 1841, ten years later than the baptism record.  Does this mean that the age of death is incorrect in the death record or is there another baptism record to be found in 1840 or 1841 for this Francis Audley?
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The second link given by ‘heywood’ is to the death of a John Audley on 11th December 1922 aged 75 giving a year of birth of 1846 or 1847; if the age at death is correct. Place of birth given as Ireland

‘Elwyn Soutter’ gives the baptism of a John the Child of a John Audly and Joan Sharkey as 12th August 1839.

Is the age at death in the death record incorrect or is there another baptism of a John Audley still to be found in Ireland in 1846 or 1847?

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The third link given by ‘heywood’ is to the death of a Eliza Audley on 19th March 1901 aged 52 giving a year of birth of 1848 or 1849; if the age at death is correct. Place of birth given as Ireland

‘Elwyn Soutter’ gives the baptism of an Elizabeth the Child of a John Audly and Joan Sharkey as 6th March 1834.

Is the age at death in the death record incorrect or is there another baptism of a Eliza (Elizabeth) Audley still to be found in Ireland in 1848 or 1849?

Please accept my apologises for questioning the information you have given me; I just want to sort out the details of this family

Many Thanks

Many thanks to all for all the fantastic information about the Audley Family in Roscommon. I believe they all must be related somehow. I am still trying to write up all this information into my Master file, which with all the information I have from America is approximately 40 pages long.

Just a few specific comments/ questions
Elwyn Soutter I think the paper list I found probably originated from the 'pay to view' website that you refer to as you appear to have struck a direct hit on all the baptisms that were on my paper list. In your message you say that you could not find the baptism of a John in 1836. I must have made an error as John's baptism was in 1939. I think Heywood found it but recorded it as Jane and Not John.

In your message you refer to the Parishes of Kilkeevin and Roscommon & Kilteevan. Are there really two parishes with such similar names (Kilkeevin and Kilteevin)?

Can I now be cheeky. The list I have on the piece of paper includes 4 marriages Haywood gave me two  of them. Can you please check if the other two are on the website you refer to. The relevant marriages are:
A John Audley in 1825 and
A Michael Audley in 1850.

There appears to be a distinct lack of death and burial records compared to the number of birth. Were burials not recorded in Ireland.

I would like to see more information from the newspaper records of the various people with the Audley Surname in Roscommon, could those people who have given me the information please give me a link to the source.

Now an admission. I am going away tomorrow to spend Christmas with my son and his family so I will have to sign off now. I will get back to this thread in a weeks time. The information you have given me is overwhelming but keep it coming.
Many Thanks

Thanks to all for your replies; I have spent the day with the grand children and have only just got home and am now able to respond to all your kind messages.

Elwyn Soutter I mentioned that they came Kilteevan because I found, by chance the baptism records I referred to in my initial message in Kilteevan Parish Registers, the names seemed to match the family that emigrated to America. Now having found the additional record in America that John entered Alms House  Hospital and that record states that he was born in County Rosscommon makes it more certain that he came from Roscommon. The new information also suggests that John's father was a butcher, hence my original message.

I would think that the 5 references to the Audley Surname in the Griffiths valuation of Ireland must be in some way related to my John Audley. The Francis Audley in the Griffiths valuation leased a forge and a yard. It is unfortunate that he did not show up in Slaters directory.

aghadowey yes I agree someone else appears to have posted about the same family. They were looking for the marriage between John Audley and Catherine Madden, and it appears that the thread found no reference to that marriage. This ties in with what Elwyn Soutter says as he cannot find a record of the marriage
You also suggest widening the search to include farmers. Surely farmers would be included in the Griffith Valuation but there appears to none in County Roscommon. Also I have yet to find a farmer listed in the Slaters Directory suggested by  Elwyn.

Maidenstone as Heyward indicates the only death I can find post 1864 is that of Henry Audley who died in 1865 aged 47 suggesting he was born in 1818. As my 'best guess' is that John Audley was born about 1825. This would make Henry 7 years older than John, perhaps they were brothers.

Haywood  You say that Henry was the Godparent to  Francis Audley baptised in 1850 in Kilteeven again supporting the evidence that Henry Audley could be the brother of John Audley.


Since my initial message I have been looking through some old family history papers one of these papers seems to suggest that there were eleven Church baptisms in County Roscommon between 1821 and 1850 unfortunately I do not know from which website the  information originates.
The list includes:
A John Audley baptised in 1821 in County Roscommon
A John Adly baptised in 1825 in County Roscommon
A John Peter Audly baptised in 1836 in County Roscommon
A John Adly baptised in 1839 in County Rosscommon

Can any body suggest a source?
Thanks for all your help