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Armed Forces / Re: Army Units stationed in Newtownards
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 19:54 BST (UK) »
I got this resolved. I don't see a delete thread button, so ignore this. Thanks
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Armed Forces / Army Units stationed in Newtownards
« on: Thursday 15 July 21 19:41 BST (UK) »
Hi,
I was wondering whether it would be possible to find out what army units were stationed in Newtownards in 1867.
My ancestor got married there in 1867 and is listed as a soldier on the certificate but I have no idea what unit he belonged to.
I saw someone very helpfully posted a link to the military lists which has books with all the units named and their locations. However, the 1860s books doesn't appear to indicate this unless I am mistaken.
Would anyone have any idea where this information could be found?
Thanks
I was wondering whether it would be possible to find out what army units were stationed in Newtownards in 1867.
My ancestor got married there in 1867 and is listed as a soldier on the certificate but I have no idea what unit he belonged to.
I saw someone very helpfully posted a link to the military lists which has books with all the units named and their locations. However, the 1860s books doesn't appear to indicate this unless I am mistaken.
Would anyone have any idea where this information could be found?
Thanks
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Antrim / Re: Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church, Belfast
« on: Sunday 30 May 21 12:53 BST (UK) »
Yes, I thought as much.
Well that's a bit more positive.
No need to worry about it. It's 100% not in civil registration. I've asked many others including, staff in PRONI about it and was advised that it isn't there.
The question has been posed as to whether they married. The aforementioned death and burial records don't support that and I am working on the assumption that having 8 children out of wedlock with the same man was probably not that common.
It's just the case of exhausting all potential records.
Well that's a bit more positive.
No need to worry about it. It's 100% not in civil registration. I've asked many others including, staff in PRONI about it and was advised that it isn't there.
The question has been posed as to whether they married. The aforementioned death and burial records don't support that and I am working on the assumption that having 8 children out of wedlock with the same man was probably not that common.
It's just the case of exhausting all potential records.
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Antrim / Re: Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church, Belfast
« on: Sunday 30 May 21 11:07 BST (UK) »
Thanks for all the responses.
I have contacted the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland via their message form. Once I receive a response I will post to advise of what is in existence, if anything, for use of others.
My paternal ancestors moved to Belfast in the late 1860s, early 1870s from the west (Antrim town direction). They settled in Old Park and this was the closest Presbyterian Church I could identify to that area. They later moved to Sailortown but there are no baptisms of their children in Sinclairs Seamens or York Street which makes me think that they have continued attending the church from that area. It's complicated by the 1901 census when they are then all Methodists. However, the school records for the children (in 1890s) indicate they are Presbyterians - this is all theoretical as to whether they attended there but there's evidence to support this.
Interesting that you mention marriage records not being registered. As there is a marriage record I cannot find in civil registration and all other records between the two parties indicate that they were married - recorded as married/widower on death records and burial records.
This record would have been from the 1880s so perhaps it's not what was meant by the comments made in the PRONI document.
I have contacted the Presbyterian Historical Society of Ireland via their message form. Once I receive a response I will post to advise of what is in existence, if anything, for use of others.
My paternal ancestors moved to Belfast in the late 1860s, early 1870s from the west (Antrim town direction). They settled in Old Park and this was the closest Presbyterian Church I could identify to that area. They later moved to Sailortown but there are no baptisms of their children in Sinclairs Seamens or York Street which makes me think that they have continued attending the church from that area. It's complicated by the 1901 census when they are then all Methodists. However, the school records for the children (in 1890s) indicate they are Presbyterians - this is all theoretical as to whether they attended there but there's evidence to support this.
Interesting that you mention marriage records not being registered. As there is a marriage record I cannot find in civil registration and all other records between the two parties indicate that they were married - recorded as married/widower on death records and burial records.
This record would have been from the 1880s so perhaps it's not what was meant by the comments made in the PRONI document.
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Antrim / Re: Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church, Belfast
« on: Thursday 27 May 21 19:07 BST (UK) »
Yeah, I checked there and couldn't find it.
I didn't know this particular church got bombed so maybe that is the case. Such a loss of history
I didn't know this particular church got bombed so maybe that is the case. Such a loss of history
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Antrim / Re: Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church, Belfast
« on: Thursday 27 May 21 17:08 BST (UK) »
Very helpful reply.
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Antrim / Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church, Belfast
« on: Thursday 27 May 21 16:42 BST (UK) »
Hello all,
Does anyone know if records for this church exist?
There's no listing for a Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church in the PRONI Church records listing.
Thanks
Does anyone know if records for this church exist?
There's no listing for a Crumlin Road Presbyterian Church in the PRONI Church records listing.
Thanks
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Antrim / Re: Robert George Black and Eliza Black - Antrim/Belfast
« on: Friday 07 May 21 16:25 BST (UK) »
Thanks for confirming this.
It would mean then that the marriage record Margaret Black -> William Marshall is potentially not correct. Maybe the alias Black meant she took that name as it was recorded as her surname at Roberts birth.
All very unusual.
It would mean then that the marriage record Margaret Black -> William Marshall is potentially not correct. Maybe the alias Black meant she took that name as it was recorded as her surname at Roberts birth.
All very unusual.
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Antrim / Re: Robert George Black and Eliza Black - Antrim/Belfast
« on: Friday 07 May 21 15:53 BST (UK) »
Thanks for this.
I had previously seen this record but I am still unsure if it is correct.
My question may be better suited on the Scottish forums but it is related to this thread. My question is really, is ms her maiden name? I am not sure, as I don't deal with Scottish records and in the case, she may have re-married from Black to Marshall.
I don't know how to interpret what is written - is 'previously' normally used when a woman remarried? It's unclear to me if Mary was ever actually married to a Black as Robert seems to be illegitimate.
I had previously seen this record but I am still unsure if it is correct.
My question may be better suited on the Scottish forums but it is related to this thread. My question is really, is ms her maiden name? I am not sure, as I don't deal with Scottish records and in the case, she may have re-married from Black to Marshall.
I don't know how to interpret what is written - is 'previously' normally used when a woman remarried? It's unclear to me if Mary was ever actually married to a Black as Robert seems to be illegitimate.