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Lincolnshire / Re: Help with Convict!
« on: Wednesday 19 September 18 12:42 BST (UK)  »

Thanks rosie99, DCB.

Totally Shocking.

Lincolnshire / Post closed!
« on: Wednesday 19 September 18 11:31 BST (UK)  »

        Post Closed.

Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Need help to solve family Puzzle!
« on: Monday 17 September 18 14:27 BST (UK)  »

Can anyone add more and maybe provide a conclusion. Thank You.

I would like to give Great Thanks to Mckha489 for the time and effort in putting this together for me.

I would appreciate some more eyes on this family.  There is a name change as outlined below (I am sorry there is a lot of information, but don’t want to leave anything out)

A - are the conclusions drawn here correct?  and
B.  WHY did the BENNISON children decide to change to BRUCE when they were registered and known as BENNISON at least until 1861 but some until after 1871?

Fanny HEBB married Robert BRUCE 11 Dec 1836  at Hull

They had a son Robert baptised 12 June 1837  at St Mary & St Nicholas, Beverley, York son of Frances BRUCE a widow.

Robert BRUCE senior  (age 20) had died in February 1837 and was buried St John’s Beverley 12 Feb 1837. Of Lairgate


William BENNISON - 30
Fanny BRUCE -20
John BRUCE 5 **
Robert BRUCE 4 ***
Elizabeth BRUCE 6 months  (she is in GRO as BENNISON Elizabeth Bruce   1840, D Quarter, Beverley Union, Vol 23 page 8 MMN HEBB)

there is no marriage for Fanny BRUCE to William BENNISON


William BENNISON 45
Fanny BENNISON 35 (wife)
John BRUCE  16 son-in-law  (= stepson)   
Robert BRUCE 14 son-in-law (= stepson)
Elizabeth BENNISON 10 daughter 
William  BENNISON 7 son
James BENNISON 5  son
Thomas BENNISON 3 son
Hannah BENNISON 6mths   daughter  (these 5 children are all in the GRO as BENNISON,  MMN  HEBB
Rosa  BENNISON  68  mother,  widow of John BENNISON, mariner


William BENNISON 55
Fanny BENNISON 45   Wife
Elizabeth BENNISON 20  daughter
William  BENNISON 17 son
James BENNISON 15 son
Thomas BENNISON 13 son
Hannah BENNISON 10 daughter
Henry BENNISON 8 son
George BENNISON 5 son    these last two also in GRO as BENNISON MMN HEBB

Now, suddenly the BRUCE surname reappears


Elizabeth BRUCE  24, of Keldgate  Father, William BRUCE married James LYON , 19, a collier. witness Hannay MAYHAM and Robert TOWSE

Sept 11, 1868, Hannah BRUCE of Friars Lane was buried

And yet in 1871 we have

William, Fanny, Tom, Harry  and George  BENNISON are all at Friars Lane, Beverley St Martin

while James, BRUCE a joiner, is a boarder in the household of Benjamin LOFT a joiner

William junior b 1844 I cannot see in the 1871 census but on 21 June 1871 a William BRUCE (father William BRUCE) married Caroline WILKINSON   (yorkshire marriages FindMyPast)  witnesses John TUTING and Eliza TUTING

Henry BRUCE married March 8th 1874, labourer of Friars Lane, (see 1871 census) father William BRUCE to Alice GRIFFIN
witnesses Charles GRIFFIN and Mary FOSTER

George BRUCE married 27 Dec 1874 gardener of Friars Lane father William to Eliza Ann STIMPSON. witnesses Mary Ann & R…STIMPSON
James BRUCE, joiner (father William BRUCE) married 25 Dec 1875 to Annie Elizabeth MALTON
witnesses Margaret SAXBY and John TUTING

Beverley and East Riding Recorder 05 August 1876
William BENNISON of Friars Lane - up for not paying his rates of 13s 3d

Mar 5 1881 William BENNISON of Dog and Duck Lane buried age 79

Census 1881 at Dog and Duck Lane in “Old Oak Tree Gatehouse”  are George BRUCE his wife Eliza BRUCE  3 children, his mother Frances BRUCE and his unmarried brother Thomas BRUCE

Thereafter everyone keeps their name as BRUCE.  Except for John who reverted to HEBB **

Fanny is buried as Frances BRUCE  of Dog & Duck Lane 14 Jan 1889

John BRUCE was obviously born before Fanny’s marriage to Robert BRUCE baptised as John HEBB North Frodingham 6 Sep 1835,  mother Frances HEBB, no father named and noted as illegitimate. He marries in 1859 under the name of HEBB  which he keeps thereafter  (But says his father is William HEBB a mariner) 

Robert BRUCE married in 1860 and of course is also BRUCE.

Once again thank you for taking your time in reading this, any help to solve the puzzle will be
greatly appreciated. 


Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Re: Marriage record lookup Please.
« on: Monday 17 September 18 09:04 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for the reply Mckha489

Could I pm you.


Yorkshire (East Riding & York) / Marriage record lookup Please.
« on: Monday 17 September 18 08:47 BST (UK)  »

Could anyone dome a look up for some marriage details, Please

I have some basic details but I am trying to find the parents of Henry Bruce.

Henry Bruce  born 1853  Beverley, East Yorkshire. Burial 1917, Cemetery St. Mary Churchyard, Beverley.

Alice Griffin  born 1854
married 1874 Beverley, East Yorkshire.

Thank you for your time.

Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Photo Date of William Johnson
« on: Thursday 03 May 18 16:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi Treetotal,

I believe it is an actual photograph found by my cousin in her Fathers wallet who passed away in 1986 and she took a picture of it with her mobile phone and sent me it.
She did tell me there was no name on the back but some photo's have a number? I will have to get back in touch with her just to confirm there are no markings.


Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Photo Date of William Johnson
« on: Thursday 03 May 18 16:11 BST (UK)  »
Hi Japeflakes,

Wow.. cracking image, what res is that in, 600 or higher!

thanks anyway, can see a lot clearer.


Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Photo Date of William Johnson
« on: Thursday 03 May 18 16:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi McGroger,

Looking young runs in the family,  people still call me lad even though I am older then them.
It must be in the genes.
Great Grandfather was born in 1854,  the original picture looked to be sepia and that made me think it was possibly earlier than 1900, but I am no expert in these matters and leave for people who are more knowledgeable.

I will have to see if any experts as you say, can shed more light on the subject.
thanks :)

Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Photo Date of William Johnson
« on: Thursday 03 May 18 10:53 BST (UK)  »
Thank's McGroger,

Thanks for your efforts with the picture, turned out pretty good considering the resolution.

Your dating of the photograph and age of person in it..  could well be on the money.
My Grand Father was born in 1878 so I recon 35 to 40 will not be far out.

Great Stuff.

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