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Wexford / Re: Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Sunday 11 February 18 11:40 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks, Wexflyer, for your interest in this issue, and for your observations.
One of my original intentions was to find some published account of the Pierce family that might mention an Elizabeth Pierce, but I have had no luck so far.
I am trying to get hold of the marriage certificate of Elizabeth to George Evans Hughes, or indeed any record of the marriage.
A relative that I have contacted claims to have had that marriage certificate (they said that the marriage took place in Shropshire) and passed it onto another family member some years ago, and I've recently emailed descendants in France who might know its whereabouts.




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Wexford / Re: Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Tuesday 02 January 18 16:32 GMT (UK)  »
To Heywood - thanks for that.
I agree - it is looking increasingly unlikely that Elizabeth was of this family.
I'll see if I get find out more about the Pierce connection at this end.
Regards,
Brian.

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Wexford / Re: Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Tuesday 02 January 18 15:35 GMT (UK)  »
To Heywood - many thanks for that latest post about the Pierces.
The birth/baptism dates for Martin, Phillip and John are similar to those that are at
http://www.buildingsofireland.ie/niah/highlights.jsp?county=WX&list=true
so I do think it is the correct family for the Pierce Ironworks.

No, I cannot find a baptism of Elizabeth with father James, but it may be in another patish becasue the 1911 Census does give her place of birth as Co.Wexford.
I wonder if, as you say, Elizabeth was born in another part of Wexford soon after the marriage, before Joanne.
Does the marriage record that you found have any location attached to it ?

I do have another family member, aged 75, who I am trying to contact - hopefully I'll have some success there.

I'll look further into those additional family members that you found in the parish registers.
Thanks again,
Brian.

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Wexford / Re: Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Monday 01 January 18 20:55 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for the posts everyone.
To JJen - yes that's the correct Hughes family in 1901, and I do have the birth cert of Evan Hughes which states that his mother's name was 'Elizabeth Hughes formerly Pierce', and the birth address is 94 Hood Street, Bootle, the same as the 1891 Census street address.
I have to admit that I didn't check the GRO until you posted your message, and so did not know about the Killean references - sorry again for not checking my facts properly.
I don't understand the Killean link - needs further thought.

To Heywood - yes I believe that is the correct George Hughes in 1881 lodging in Birkenhead and working as a Railway Inspector.

To Hallmark - regarding the Pierce family, I think that James Pierce married Mary Ann Murphy - his Probate record gives his wife's name as Mary Ann, their son John's birth record shows her maiden name as Murkley (sic), and James Pierce and Mary Ann Murphy are the parents of Joanna born 6.10.1844, Mary born 5.4.1848 and Phillip born 14.4.1846). Of course there could be a James Pierce that married Mary Ann Murphy and another that married Mary Ann (surname unknown).

I've only been researching the Pierce family for a couple of days, and have found baptism records and family members in 1901 and 1911 - James' sons Martin who married Mary, and John (described as Foundry Proprietor) who married Susan -and they are in the right locations (Maudlintown and Ballyboggan).
I was hoping that there might be some source local to Wexford, or some expert in Wexford, that could shed more light on the Pierce family, in order to determine if there was a child called Elizabeth born around 1843/1844.

Thanks again for all your efforts on my behalf.
Brian.

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Wexford / Re: Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Monday 01 January 18 17:18 GMT (UK)  »
Can I just say that I am amazed by the brilliant response from rootschat.com members and moderators - many many thanks.

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Wexford / Re: Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Monday 01 January 18 17:16 GMT (UK)  »
To Hallmark - many thanks for that link - I wasn't aware that those records were available online.

To JJen and to Rosie - yes, that is the marriage record that I have - vol 8A Page 709.

JJen - I haven't seen the marriage certificate, but what you say throws a large spanner in the works (and I don't mean the Engineering Works).
I must have the wrong marriage because the 1891 and 1901 Censuses both show George Hughes, his wife Elizabeth (they are both aged 47 in 1891 and 57 in 1901) and the correct descendants in Liverpool.
The 1911 Census shows Elizabeth aged 67 with the correct children and she has been married for 29 years, which puts the marriage in about 1882.
I assumed that the Eliza Peers who married in 1885 was Elizabeth Pierce, but it looks as if I was wrong.
Many thanks for looking up the marriage certificate - sorry for my mistake.

JJen - thanks for the recent post - that Elizabeth is a potential match, and I have seen a couple of other potential matches, but none matches the strong hearsay link to the Pierce Ironworks.

Brian.

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Wexford / Pierce Family (of Pierce Ironworks Foundry)
« on: Monday 01 January 18 16:34 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to establish whether Elizabeth Pierce, born 1843/1844 in Wexford, was a member of the Pierce family that founded the Pierce Ironworks Foundry.
I have found lots of information about James Pierce (born 1813) and his sons Martin, Phillip and John, and have found probable daughters Joanna (born 6.10.1844) and Mary (born 5.4.1848), but can not find any record of a daughter Elizabeth.

The Elizabeth Pierce that I am researching married George Evans Hughes in Birkenhead, Merseyside in JAS1885 - Hughes family hearsay says that Elizabeth is linked to the Pierce Ironworks Foundry, but I cannot prove that at present.

I would be very grateful if any of you knowledgeable historical researchers on this forum could help me.
Many Thanks,
Brian in Merseyside.

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