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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Are they first cousins?
« on: Thursday 14 December 23 14:53 GMT (UK) »
They both did My Heritage DNA tests.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Are they first cousins?
« on: Thursday 14 December 23 14:44 GMT (UK) »
OK, thanks
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Are they first cousins?
« on: Thursday 14 December 23 14:31 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou. I'll tell her to have a look on Gedmatch. Do you know, by any chance if I could add their DNA results to my Ancestry account? I already have my own there. I just thought I could look for matches through Ancestry too.
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Are they first cousins?
« on: Thursday 14 December 23 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou. So would you say it's more likely that they have a different grandfather?
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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Are they first cousins?
« on: Thursday 14 December 23 13:16 GMT (UK) »
Hello.
I'm hoping someone here may be able to help with a DNA conundrum please?
I'm trying to help a very good friend who's father has recently passed away. Her and her cousin have always been aware that their grandfather was not the man their grandmother was married to. They don't know if they have the same grandfather. Both men clearly had some Asian heritage though. My friends grandmother ran a boarding house in Cardiff, Wales docks area and would have come in contact with many sailors. My friend and her cousin believe their grandfather was a merchant seaman from Singapore called Osman Ben Ali but it's never been confirmed. I'll post about him on another board. I'm hoping that if I attach both of their DNA results and the comparison between them someone may be able to tell me if they are first cousins? Or where I can find out more? Thankyou
I'm hoping someone here may be able to help with a DNA conundrum please?
I'm trying to help a very good friend who's father has recently passed away. Her and her cousin have always been aware that their grandfather was not the man their grandmother was married to. They don't know if they have the same grandfather. Both men clearly had some Asian heritage though. My friends grandmother ran a boarding house in Cardiff, Wales docks area and would have come in contact with many sailors. My friend and her cousin believe their grandfather was a merchant seaman from Singapore called Osman Ben Ali but it's never been confirmed. I'll post about him on another board. I'm hoping that if I attach both of their DNA results and the comparison between them someone may be able to tell me if they are first cousins? Or where I can find out more? Thankyou
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The Common Room / Re: Cotter of Youghal
« on: Monday 01 November 21 13:47 GMT (UK) »
Edwards father was an Edmond Cotter of Youghal. I have found several Cotters in Killeagh burial grounds. There are a Thomas and Ellen, parents of Edmond and there is a Julian, wife of Edmond who apparently died in 1803 aged 21. Wonder whether this is why Edward and possibly James ended up in London, but what happened to Edmond? So many questions.
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The Common Room / Cotter of Youghal
« on: Monday 01 November 21 13:25 GMT (UK) »
Hi
My research has led me to the name James Cotter from around the Youghal, Cork area of Ireland but also London which is why I am posting in the Common Room. I know that there are other members here researching this name so maybe they will see this. My 3rd great grandmother was Mary Cotter born about 1827 in Youghal, Cork. She married Michael Murray in July 1850 in St Giles in the Fields, London and went on to have children in London, Youghal and Liverpool. I'm trying to find out more about the Cotter line. On her marriage certificate it says her father was a James Cotter who was a horse dealer. Witnesses were a Mary Cotter and an Isabella Cotter. At first I thought this may be a mother and sister but now I don't think it is. The marriage certificate puts her residence as 16 Dean Street, Fetter Lane. I did a search on this forum and found out that at the time this was the residence of an Edward Cotter, tailor, his wife Isabella and children one of which was a Mary so now I think the witnesses to her marriage were probably her aunt and cousin and that Edward was her uncle. Do you think this would make sense? So now I'm trying to make sense of James and Edward and when/why they left Youghal. I have a substantial tree on Ancestry but a lot of it is guesswork that I'm trying to substantiate and not actual evidence. Thanks
My research has led me to the name James Cotter from around the Youghal, Cork area of Ireland but also London which is why I am posting in the Common Room. I know that there are other members here researching this name so maybe they will see this. My 3rd great grandmother was Mary Cotter born about 1827 in Youghal, Cork. She married Michael Murray in July 1850 in St Giles in the Fields, London and went on to have children in London, Youghal and Liverpool. I'm trying to find out more about the Cotter line. On her marriage certificate it says her father was a James Cotter who was a horse dealer. Witnesses were a Mary Cotter and an Isabella Cotter. At first I thought this may be a mother and sister but now I don't think it is. The marriage certificate puts her residence as 16 Dean Street, Fetter Lane. I did a search on this forum and found out that at the time this was the residence of an Edward Cotter, tailor, his wife Isabella and children one of which was a Mary so now I think the witnesses to her marriage were probably her aunt and cousin and that Edward was her uncle. Do you think this would make sense? So now I'm trying to make sense of James and Edward and when/why they left Youghal. I have a substantial tree on Ancestry but a lot of it is guesswork that I'm trying to substantiate and not actual evidence. Thanks
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Lied about her father?
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 14:45 GMT (UK) »
That is very tangled! You really need to be a detective sometimes don't you. And just to add I love the surname Birtwisle, it's great! I wish some of the parish registers I've come across would ask for grandparents too, would make life much easier in many cases, sometimes I struggle to even get the mothers name.
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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Lied about her father?
« on: Tuesday 10 November 20 13:17 GMT (UK) »
It does seem likely she is lying. I suppose the first marriage between John and Emma they felt no need to lie as it was in her home town and being a prominent family the details of her parentage would probably have been well known but the second marriage between John and Annie being in a different city she didn't want to appear illegitimate