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Good advice by Mark and Wendy.

The first thing that struck me was that you say that James Brown b 1850 died in Liverpool, though you don't have a date or even a year for him.  :-\

How do you know that his father was George? You say that James is born "about" 1850 which implies you do not have his birth certificate. How do you know who his parents are?

Just be careful with all those Browns as a mix up would be very easy. Sorry to say that it will be a miracle if your DNA test helps. A few people have some success, but if your surname is Brown and your Browns stayed in the UK, be prepared to be disappointed. Presumably you have taken an autosomal (Familyfinder) test, in which case you will get results for both your maternal and paternal branches which makes it difficult to determine which match is for which branch of your family  (added confusion).

Finally, if your tree does lead to Scotland, buy some credits from Scotlands People and purchase the appropriate certificates. Even pre 1855 entries can sometimes help in the search though often parents and other details may not be given. Familysearch has some decent covereage of Scottish records for some areas.

It could be worth going back to double check your facts. For example Violet died in Qld and her parents are named as James Brown and Emily Evemy? Do you have James and Emily's marriage certificate? If they married in England it will give names and occupations of their fathers. From this you look for the families in the censuses. Do you have Violet in any census with her parents?

Let us know if you need any help or opinions or double checking ...  :)

The Common Room / Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« on: Yesterday at 12:27 »
I thought the Cheddar man looked very like the Dutch brothers who made him up, deffo some connection!  ;D


Your comment, Skoosh, brought to mind the facial reconstructions in the series "History Cold Case" of which the majority bore a remarkable resemblance to their creator Caroline Wilkinson:

Sometimes records of immigration can't be found. I've got a couple like that. I think if the person paid their own passage they sometimes slipped through the cracks.

I don't know if you have already looked here but if she married in Qld you might find her marriage:

Her death certificate will say how long in the state if known by the informant, so you can do some sums to try to narrow down year of arrival.

Technical Help / Re: Choosing a new Mobile phone
« on: Monday 19 February 18 01:43 GMT (UK)  »
Poli, If you are used to the Samsung why not just get a newer version?

If you are keen to use the phone to take photographs I believe that some of the newer Samsungs have very good cameras. I think the Samsung A7 has a good camera for the price, but you should check with someone who knows.  :)

As suggested you may also be able to put your old sim into your new phone, so everything you have on the old phone (addresses, photos, messages - everything) will transfer to the new phone.

 You may also find it easier to use a Samsung as at least some of the controls etc will be what you are used to on your old phone. Maybe ask in a physical shop for advice.

I would advise putting your phone in a case of some sort, then the casing being slippery won't be an issue. Some of them are very 'tacky' and non slip.  :)

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Y-DNA Test
« on: Monday 19 February 18 01:03 GMT (UK)  »
Although you have heard a couple of stories of people having no useful results from their DNA tests, the more people who test, the more results there will be, so it is a double edged sword.

It is still an interesting exercise nevertheless.

Maybe dip your toes in the water and take an autosomal test as suggested by Jane. Autosomal tests can be very useful if your maternal and paternal lines originate in different parts of the world (like mine do - I can tell which of my "matches" belong to which side of the family). :)

Dublin / Re: Lady Ann of Clontarf?
« on: Sunday 18 February 18 21:50 GMT (UK)  »
I was expecting to say there is no resemblance whatsoever, however, looking at the two images side by side, surprisingly, I think there are some similarities.

I think the major difference is the chin. She looks slightly double chinned in the painting and fine chinned in the image with the bonnet. That may be due to lack of skill of the amateur painter or the fact that she was younger and more full faced when that was painted. The sitter in the second picture is looking down a little so the angle is different.

Brows are slightly different but that could be explained by fashions* or the amateur painter  trying to make her look more glamorous.

Still, though there are differences I think they could be the same person.

*Added: By "fashions" I mean that the painter may have depicted features in a particular way as it was a fashionable look at the time, rather than the sitter physically possessing those attributes. For example, a high and fine brow might have been in vogue whereas in reality the sitter may have had lower brows as depicted in the second image, so the painter may have conformed to what was fashionable.

Using that logic I suppose it could be the case that all images of ladies of the time had a similar 'look' about them. They probably did.  :)

It is often difficult to determine if two photographs are of the same person, and it is doubly difficult when you are looking at drawings, prints or paintings when there are so many other variables to consider.  :-\

Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Y-DNA Test
« on: Sunday 18 February 18 11:00 GMT (UK)  »
It is also possible that if you find a DNA match which appears promisingly close, you may not be able to find the paper connection, or even worse, as I have found with my father's results, a promising match did not supply any contact details. I think the 12 matches are nigh on useless, and the 25 not much better, so if you do decode to test, go for the 67 or higher as David recommends.

Like David I tested my father and my partner several years ago with no useful connections found yet, and my partner has an extremely common surname. Some people get lucky though ...

Ah, he is so cute JJ!! i couldn't tell you if he is the same baby in photo one though ...

Thank you. Just noticed couple things. The lady seated appears to be wearing a dressing gown and an interesting shoe. If other lady was my grandmother can't make out a wedding ring. I have a pic of Dad aged 3 months and another aged around 15 months don't think he is baby, he was quite cute. The kneeling lady has a look of my grandmother however there is not much face to see.

JJ, I think that is a dress or a white blouse worn with a pale skirt rather than a dressing gown. I bet it is made from a lovely fabric too.

I think the photo may have been taken a little earlier than 1920.

i don't think it is a studio portrait - the grass and large tree look too real.  :)

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