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Australia / Re: Kavanagh
« on: Sunday 02 July 23 00:45 BST (UK)  »
That’s a great result, Jimmy.

Jamjar

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Australia / Re: death notice lookup - completed with thanks
« on: Wednesday 03 August 22 15:41 BST (UK)  »
Springvale Botanical Cemetery
Winifred Doreen Stephens
Date of birth 2 September 1911
Date of death 9 July 2010
Date of service 14 July 2010
Service provided Cremated - The cremated remains have been collected
Funeral director Tobin Brothers - Berwick

Jamjar

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Australia / Re: Bell and Mcildowie
« on: Tuesday 19 July 22 01:20 BST (UK)  »
You can purchase certificates online: https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/62d5f415288a352222c652ab?q=efamily

2216/1932 MCILDOWIE Harriet mother TUNLEY father JONES Morris death MALVERN aged 88
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123894000/harriet-mcildownie
Probate notice, 2nd last column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4469476

10794/1948 BELL Mary Elizabeth mother Harriett JONES father MCILDOWIE John birth ANNAN SCOTLAND death BOX HILL aged 76
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123862748/mary-elizabeth-bell

1168/1952 BELL John Bell mother unknown father BELL death BOX HILL aged 76
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123862723/john-bell-bell

Added: The sons:

354/1929 BELL Wm Burns to LOWE, Hetta Violet

19582/1979 BELL William Burns mother Mary Elizabeth MCILDOWIE father BELL John birth Annan Scotland death Melbourne aged 74

BELL Williams Burns Death notice 24AUG1979 Death 74 at Melbourne, formerly of Annan, Scotland The Age (Melbourne) 27AUG1979

BELL Henrietta Violet (Vi) Death notice 5JUL2008 Death 101 Herald Sun (Melbourne) 9JUL2008

William Burns BELL Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 28 August 1979
Henrietta Violet BELL Springvale Botanical Cemetery Cremated 9 July 2008

7816/1933 BELL Maurice Jno Mcledowie to BICHARD Joyce G'trude Etherington

Harriette’s children:

Births:

MCILDOWIE GEORGINA 1880 812/ 150 Annan
MCILDOWIE JOHN 1886 812/ 96 Annan

1881 census
MCILDOWIE James 66
Mary 56
John 34
Harriet 36
Catherine 24
Jean H 18
James 16
Wilhelmina 15
Mary E 7
Janet 5
Georgina 0

1891 census 812/ 3/ 8 Annan Dumfries
MCILDOWIE Mary 67
Harriet 46
John 44
Katie 34
James 26
Wilhelmina 25
Mary 17
Janet 15
Georgina 10
Alice 8
John 4

1901 census 812/ 3/ 11 Annan Dumfries
MCILDOWIE Harriet 56
Catherine 44
James 36
Williamina 35
Mary Elizabeth 27
Janet 25
Georgina 20
Alice 17
John 14

1911 census 812/ 3/ 27 Annan Dumfries
MCILDOWIE Herriet 67
Georgina 30
Allice 27

Deaths:

10240/1925 MCILDOWRIE John mother Harriet JONES father MCILDOWRIE John at MALVERN aged 39
Death notice: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article2139381
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/123894002/john-mcildownie

NSW death: 3435/1966 MCILDOWIE Georgina parents JOHN and HARRIETT at SYDNEY
MCILDOWIE Georgina Death notice 2JUL1966 Death 85 Sydney Morning Herald 4JUL1966

I cannot find a marriage, or death for Alice.

Jamjar

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« on: Friday 15 July 22 08:44 BST (UK)  »
I did find Joseph(27) on a 1901 census in Walsall Staffordshire with his mum Phoebe(widowed 59) & her niece Lilly(18).

That Joseph was discounted back in reply #5. He is still working in Walsall as a polisher in 1911 census, and married. His mother's maiden name was GENT.

PARKES, JOSEPH mmn GENT 
GRO Reference: 1875  S Quarter in WALSALL  Volume 06B  Page 690

Jamjar

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« on: Friday 15 July 22 08:42 BST (UK)  »
The nearest Phebe /Phoebe SANDERS to Philip PARKES of a suitable age is a 20 year old single woman who, in 1871,  lived in Sheffield, Staffordshire. Not very close at all to Aston. ::)

Phebe SANDERS
Piece 4687
Folio 32
Page number 7

She is unemployed on census night and lives with her father William, a labourer and her 22 year old brother.

Sue

A possibility. I used SAUNDERS with phonetically similar variations and only one suitable.

SANDERS, JOSEPH       - 
GRO Reference: 1873  J Quarter in LICHFIELD  Volume 06B  Page 448

Jamjar

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« on: Friday 15 July 22 08:18 BST (UK)  »

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« on: Friday 15 July 22 08:10 BST (UK)  »
I did find Joseph(27) on a 1901 census in Walsall Staffordshire with his mum Phoebe(widowed 59) & her niece Lilly(18).

Under what surname?

Added: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSQB-3ND

A polisher is very different from an engineer.

Jamjar

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« on: Friday 15 July 22 08:01 BST (UK)  »
Mar 1850 Aston 16 262 
PARKES Henry
SMITH Mary Ann

PARKES, PHILIP  EDWIN mmn SMITH 
GRO Reference: 1853  S Quarter in ASTON  Volume 06D  Page 242

Jamjar

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Where is my great grandfather???
« on: Friday 15 July 22 07:55 BST (UK)  »
1871 Aston, Birmingham

Philip PARKES aged 18, born Birmingham. Living 272 Watery Lane Aston . He is the son of Henry and Mary Ann and has siblings.
Piece-   3141
Folio-117
Page number-   26

He is a plane maker as are others of his male family. The area had brass and metal works employing local workers.
A moulder is one who makes moulds for the manufacture of metal tools and other items. A plane is a metal tool used in carpentry.

Sue

I did wonder about it, also: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KD82-GH4

Andrea, if you read the history carefully, you will note that negotiations began earlier. Although the British companies didn’t win the tender, Joseph may have been sent out during negotiations. He also may have been involved in the setting up of machinery for the 1912 opening.


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