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Somerset / Re: FOWLERs of Cudworth and Cricket St. Thomas, Somerset
« on: Saturday 31 October 20 23:14 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Geoff, 

Greetings from Toronto, Canada. 

I am descended from Mary Dare's brother, Robert Fowler junior (c1757 - 1848).  Mary Dare and my Robert Fowler junior were both the children of Robert Fowler senior (17?? - 1806).  In 1781, at her marriage with Robert Dare, Mary had an unmarried sister, Sarah Fowler, who married William Glyde, the next year.  We do not know the name of the wife of Robert Fowler senior.  So that witness could have been Mary Dare's sister and probably was.  I am not researching the families of any of the siblings of Robert Fowler junior. 

I have a few notes on your ancestor and mine, Robert Fowler senior, which may help you:   

"  Our earliest known Fowler ancestor was Robert Fowler senior (17?? – 1806), yeoman, of Cricket St. Thomas, Somerset, and of Thorncombe, Devon.  We can state this with a good deal of certainty.  Locations and dates of his baptism and marriage are not known.  [A possible marriage for this Robert was in Cricket St. Thomas, on June 1st., 1753, when a Robert Fowler, otp, married a Mary Pall, sp, of the parish of Winsham.]  It is also not known where he lived in the 1750s and 1760s, when his ten children were born  -  it was not in Cricket St. Thomas.  Robert senior was a dairyman, who left, in his will, all his dairy goods and utensils to his daughter, Martha.  Robert senior and family later lived in Cricket St. Thomas, Somerset, till after 1782.  Six of  his children, all described as of this parish (otp), were married in that parish, between 1774 and 1782.  Robert senior and family were living in Thorncombe, Devon, by 1790 and two more of his children were married there, in 1790 and 1792.  Robert senior signed his last will on January 30th., 1805, in Thorncombe, Devon.  When Robert signed his will, he was a dairyman and he left all his dairy goods and utensils to his daughter, Martha.  That will was proved at London on December 10th., 1806, sons Robert and James Fowler being executors  (prob. 11 / 1453).  In his will Robert Fowler mentioned, by name, his 10 (surviving?) children.  Robert Fowler 80, of the parish of Thorncombe, Devon, was buried in Cricket St. Thomas, Somerset, on October 11th., 1806.  " 

Geoff, I hope that this helps! 

Hope that you and your family are keeping well and clear of all trouble from Covid 19.   

Best wishes.   


Peter.   


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Hi Sammy Bee, 

Sorry, I failed to add in that promised note on our Shared Bocarro family.  Here are my notes on Uncle George and his family, including my cousins Berna and Elaine: 

"  George Christopher Bocarro, son of Joseph Bocarro and Rose Mary Esperance, was born in Bandra, on May 2nd., 1902.  On February 26th., 1927, in Mount Mary’s Church, Bandra, George married Marjorie Pereira.  George was an architect in the G.I.P. Railway.  They lived in “The Anchorage” on Mount Mary’s Road, in Bandra.  George, aged 67, died on July 31st., 1969 and Marjorie, aged 87, on December 28th., 1991;  they are both buried in St. Andrew’s churchyard, Bandra.  George and Marjorie had issue:     

1]    Bernadette Mary Bocarro, born on September 17th., 1927.  In about 1952, she married Roydon Cabral.  Roy and Berna migrated to England.  In England, Berna taught yoga and was known as Yogini Sunita.  Berna died about Q2 of 1970, in Walsall, England.  They had issue:  Ken, Mignon and Yasmin Cabral (b. in Q3 of 1962 in Walsall).   

2]    Elaine Angela Bocarro, born in Bandra, on October 2nd., 1928; bp. in St. Andrew’s church on October 20th., 1928.  On March 31st., 1953, in Kensington district, London, England, she married Elliot Jacob Fernandes and they lived in London and Bandra West where they had issue:  Elliot (b. in Q4 of 1955 in Ealing, London), Marc Mario (who died and was buried in the Bocarro grave, in St. Andrew’s churchyard) and Ramon.  Elaine died on July 13th., 2008 and was buried in St. Andrew’s Churchyard, in the Bocarro grave.       

3]    Philomena Bocarro, died young.

4]    Geoffrey Bocarro, died young.

Happy browsing!!   I have oodles and oodles more of Bocarro family history notes, if you are interested.  Just contact me by e-mail. 

e-mail:        peterferreira@rogers.com

Best wishes. 


Peter Ferreira.
Toronto,
Canada. 






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Hi Sammy Bee, 

Yes, Elaine Bocarro, from Bandra, was a second cousin of mine.  I can help you if you are interested in our shared Bocarro family history.  I am one of the Bocarro family genealogists and have more than 300 Bocarro relatives in my Bocarro Family Tree.  The oldest Bocarro on my tree is Michael Bocarro (c1773 - 1848).  What are you interested in?  I would be delighted to share Bocarro notes with you.  I am married to one of the Bandra Bocarro descendants  -  so I am only connected to you through marriage. 

Please contact me at:    peterferreira@rogers.com 

Best wishes. 


Peter Ferreira
Toronto, Canada. 

Here are my notes on Cousin Berna and Uncle George B. 

Best wishes. 


Peter Ferreira
Toronto, Canada







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Somerset / Re: Joseph PHELPS of Shepton Beauchamp, Som.
« on: Monday 25 February 19 21:05 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Bill,

Greetings from Toronto, Canada. 

I have an extensive PHELPS family tree, as Joseph Phelps was an ancestor of mine;  it includes more than about 150 Phelps descendants.  I am not descended from the Willy family and have only researched the Willy branch within my Phelps tree. 

In case anybody out there is interested in the Willy / Phelps branch that we have improved upon, here is my update of it: 

E.   Elizabeth Phelps, daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Phelps, was baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 5th., 1767.  On July 23rd., 1787, in Shepton Beauchamp, Elizabeth Phelps of Shepton Beauchamp married Ambrose Willy of Kingsbury, by licence, in the presence of Joseph Phelps and John Robinson.  Ambrose signed his will in Norton Fitzwarren parish, in 1810;  he was buried in that parish on May 25th., 1810.    Ambrose and Elizabeth had issue:
1.   Joseph Willy,
2.   Thomas Willy, buried in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 1st., 1801.   
3.   Jane Willy, 
4.   John Willy, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on December 30th., 1795;  buried there on August 18th., 1797; 
5.   James Willy,
6.   Robert Willey, son of Ambrose and Elizabeth Willey of Middle Lambrook in the parish and the census district of Kingsbury Episcopi, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset, on May 4th., 1802; 
7.   Elizabeth Willey, daughter of Ambrose and Elizabeth Willey of Middle Lambrook in the parish of Kingsbury Episcopi, baptized in Shepton Beauchamp, Somerset , on November 30th., 1803. 
 
[An Ambrose Willey 7 was buried in Kingsbury Episcopi on May 28th., 1831.] 

Best wishes. 


Peter.






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Somerset / Re: Joseph PHELPS of Shepton Beauchamp, Som.
« on: Monday 25 February 19 18:00 GMT (UK)  »
Hi William,

Many thanks for your message and new information on my Willy branch in Somerset.  You have given me details of four new cousins in that branch.  Very much appreciated!

Best wishes. 


Peter.

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Hi "gdcruz".

My deepest apologies.  Please ignore my Reply # 3 in this string, posted at 19:53 on Monday.  That message of mine has major errors and I withdraw it, totally.  I had a major problem lining up several separate sheets of family history notes.  We will pick up our discussion about the parents and siblings of Sir Michael de Lima e Souza, after you get back to me. 

Sorry about that. 

Best wishes. 


Peter.

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Hi "gdcruz", 

I am referring to some notes, kindly shared by an Indian cousin of mine.  I have not researched this family personally;  however, the source has generally proved very reliable.  According to these notes: 

Joseph de Souza married Suzanna Servier.   They had issue: 

1.  Manoel de Souza.
2.  Pascoa de Souza, who married Anthony Lawrence Barretto, c1801.  They had issue:  Joseph, John, Louis (who married Diodita Y. Lobrinho) and another daughter, who married.     
3.   Thomas de Lima e Souza, who married and had issue:  Dioditta (who married Luis Barretto) and Thomas de Souza (who married Pascoa Barretto)
4.  Michael de Lima e Souza, whom I mentioned in my earlier response, a few minutes ago.  He was my wife's ancestor.   
5.  Antonio de Souza, who married Susanna Servier, and had issue:  Quiteria and Edward Arthur de Souza. 

I do not know whether the children are listed in chronological order.  I do have some further notes on this family.  Any interest? 

Best wishes. 


Peter Ferreira.

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Hi "gdcruz".  You are probably a cousin of my wife's or mine. 

Thank you very much for your information-packed message.  Much appreciated. 

Greetings from Toronto, Canada.  I definitely would like to build on this correspondence with you.  Perhaps, it would be best to continue on regular e-mail.  I am Peter Ferreira, originally from Bandra, but now living in Toronto.  My e-address is: 
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All those names you mention are relations of my wife's.  She was born Cornelia de Ga, in Bandra. 

Here is a brief biography on one of her ancestors, Sir Michael de Lima e Souza, of Mazagaon, Bombay: 

"  Michael (Miguel) de Lima e Souza was born approximately 1750.  Originally, his ancestral family owned Mazagaon Island, Bombay, which they had procured from the King of Portugal, in 1572 and retained for a couple of centuries thereafter.  The family house was located adjacent to or within the grounds of the old Church of Nossa Senhora de Gloria, which was built in 1632, at the foot of the Mazagaon hill.  The old church was demolished in 1911 and the present Gloria Church, Byculla, was built on another location, in 1913.  Michael’s parents were probably Joseph de Souza and Louisa Serrao (source:  Megan de Souza).  However, the Geni Tree shows Joseph’s spouse to be Catherina Mirando, which is probably erroneous.  It would appear that Michael had the following siblings:  Manoel; Pascoa, who married Anthony Lawrence Barretto; Thomas, who married unknown; and Antonio, who married Susanna Servier.  On February 2nd., 1784, Michael de Lima e Souza married (1) Rose Pereira and they had two daughters, Emily and Louisa.  Rose died on January 31st., 1786.   She was buried in the Bombay Fort Chapel of Our Lady of Mount Carmel.  Michael married (2) Anna Maria Carvalho and they raised six children.  Michael was a well known cotton merchant in Bombay;  he had strong business connections with the Goa merchants.  He also served as a civil servant to the Bombay Government.  Sir Michael was a prominent Catholic and a strong supporter of the Padroado regime, in the Catholic Church, in Bombay.  On February 6th., 1804, Michael was honoured  by a Portuguese award as Knight of the Most Honourable and Ancient Order of Christ.  Sir Michael de Lima e Souza died on December 4th., 1808.  Anna Maria, his widow, died on August 16th., 1827.  Michael and Rose Pereira, his first wife, had issue.  " 

There were eight children, in all, who generated a tribe of descendants. 

I have my tree on Geni and would be delighted to get Geni to invite you to join our tree, which would be feasible only if you are a cousin to one of us.  So, let us examine your connections to my wife and myself. 

My ancestoral families from Bombay are:  Ferreira, Rowe, Henriques, etc.  Cornelia's ancestral families from Bombay are:  de Ga, Bocarro, Oss, Gonsalves, Esperance, Philipps, etc, etc..  She is descended from Sir Michael de Lima e Souza, through his daughter, Anna Maria de Lima e Souza, who married Nicholas Fernandes.   

I look forward to hearing much more from you and to a fruitful sharing of family history information and notes.

Best wishes. 


Peter Ferreira
Toronto, Canada. 
(originally from Bombay, India) 

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Wiltshire / Re: Look-up Request - Mary Ann Lawrence (1818 - ????)
« on: Saturday 03 June 17 00:52 BST (UK)  »
Hi Mabel,

Many thanks for your response. 

James and Keziah Lawrence / Laurence were enumerated in Goatacre, Hilmarton, Wilts, for the 1841 census, living with their children: Charles 20 and Mary 25.  They were in Goatacre again, for the 1851 census, with no children. 

Mary Ann Lawrence, of this topic, was the youngest daughter of William Lawrence (1767 - 1834) and of Mary Wilkins, his wife, (1776 - 1847), who were both buried in Hilmarton, after their deaths.  Sorry for my earlier typo  -  William died in Ashbury, Berks, in 1834 and not in 1838, as I mentioned in my earlier post.  This William was born in Goatacre, Hilmarton, a son of Richard Lawrence (1738 - 1813), who was also a farmer in Hilmarton. 

Coming back to the James of your message, he was also born in Goatacre and lived there;  he was a younger brother of William and witnessed William's marriage to Mary Wilkins, in Hilmarton, on January 5th., 1809.  He is also the James Laurence of your message.   

Here is a brief biographical note on this family, showing only the Lawrences / Laurences we are discussing here. 

Richard Lawrence was baptized in St. Laurence Church, Hilmarton, on December 31st., 1738.  On May 23rd., 1762, in Hilmarton church, by banns, he married his first cousin Ann Lawrence.   Richard was a yeoman farmer in Hilmarton till about 1763 / 64 and then in Goatacre.  He was an occasional churchwarden in Hilmarton church  -  he signed his name Laurence in the PR.  Richard 74 was buried beneath a chest tomb, with m.i., in Hilmarton churchyard, on September 2nd., 1813.  Ann Lawrence 77, widow, was buried in Hilmarton churchyard, on February 27th., 1818.  Richard and Ann had issue, all baptized in Hilmarton:       

3.   William Lawrence, son of Richard and Ann Lawrence, born in Goatacre and baptized in St. Laurence Church, Hilmarton, on September 20th., 1767.  William was a yeoman farmer in Hilmarton, Bignol.  William Lawrence, farmer, married (3) Mary Wilkins, spinster, of Bremhill, in Bremhill, on January 5th., 1809, by licence, in the presence of James Lawrence and Mary Wilkins;  About 1822, William and Mary moved to farm in Idstone Farm, in Berkshire.  William continued to farm in Beaconhill Farm, Hilmarton, till 1825.  William signed his last will, in Idstone, on April 13th., 1833;  he wrote a single Codicil to this will on April 29th., 1834;  his will and Codicil mention Mary, his wife, his four sons:  Richard, William, John and James and his two daughters Mary Ann and Sarah  (will p.c.c. prob 11/1843).  William 67 died in Ashbury, Berks, and was buried, with m.i., beneath a chest tomb, in Hilmarton churchyard, on September 18th., 1834.  Mary 70, a widow, died in Bradenstoke, Wilts, and was buried in Hilmarton on June 19th., 1847.

8.   James Lawrence, son of Richard and Ann Lawrence, born in Goatacre and baptized in Hilmarton on February 9th., 1777;  James was a yeoman farmer in Goatacre and Hilmarton;  he married Kerzia Alderman, both of Hilmarton, on September 26th., 1805 (BVRI-2).  In the 1841 census, James Lawrence 60, farmer, and Kisiah 55 were living in Snow Hill, Goatacre, with Charles 20 and Mary 25;  in the 1851 census for Hilmarton, James Laurence 73 was a retired farmer, living with Kezia only;  Kezra 68 was buried in Hilmarton, from Goatacre, on August 24th., 1851;  James and Kezia had issue: Mary (1813) and Charles (1818) and 3 others. 

Best wishes. 


Peter.
   




 

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