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Cornwall / DAWE - Northill/Linkinhorne/Tintagel, CORNWALL > to Yorkshire > Lancashire > US
« on: Thursday 16 March 17 23:06 GMT (UK)  »
Walter DAWE and his wife Jane REYNAR (sp?) lived in Cornwell for several generations.  Their grandson, Richard, moved his family to Tintagell for less than a decade and moved to Yorkshire where he switched to another type of mining.  Richard's father, James followed or may have preceded him.  Three of Richard's sons and some of James chidren moved on to Lancashire.  Richard's oldest son, Alfred, took his family to Canada and worked in the silver mines.  Two of his younger sons, Albert and Percy went to school in Manchester and became Congregational Ministers; they moved to Michigan in America.  Alfred ultimately moved his family to Michigan, then California.  James children lived on in Lancashire.  Alfred was my great-grandfather.  My grandfather, Tom, and my father's family stayed in Michigan.  I enjoy hearing from various family members here and in England. 

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Roxburghshire / Re: ROBSON IN NEWCASTLETON & Jedburgh
« on: Monday 13 March 17 16:09 GMT (UK)  »
Terianne, the names you show match mine (almost) but I didn't figure the children as grand-children.  Making one of the older men the father.  I lost track of my John for 38 years, but then he married and had children.  Now if I could resolve his past.  I thought about the reivers, but most of that activity had ceased.

You're right about the reivers.  I read a very thick book about them - can't recall the author or title.  But when I was in Carlisle, the museum there has much about it.  Was also in Newcastleton and Jedburgh a few weeks later.  It's still alive in the air there, also in an area  north of Bewcastle, just below the border.  The church was built from the bricks of Hadrian's Wall.  Much of the church shows the destruction of the Dissolution, but is still used for services.  Bugs me because I can't recall the name of the church/hall/cathedral.  It was sold to a major family of that time.   Told you, it bugs me. THE NAME OF THE CHURCH IS LANERCOST PRIORY JUST OVER THE RIVER IRTHINGTON.  WAS AT IRTHINGTON CHURCH ALSO.  IT'S LITERALLY A HOP, SKIP, AND JUMP TO THE BORDER FROM EITHER LOCATION.  BOTH LOCATIONS WELL WORTH A TRIP.

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Lanarkshire / LEILL, LYLE, LISLE - BARONY parish abt 1700 to NE 1900
« on: Saturday 11 March 17 16:40 GMT (UK)  »
[size/size]My ancestor, Robert Lyle (various spellings) was shown by records to have married Margaret Masson in New Patrick, Lanark abt 1716.  They had abt eight children.  Their son, Robert, was born abt 1732 in Govan Parish.  He married Janet/Jean Taylor in Kilmalcolm, Renfrewshire in 1756.  Robert and Janet had abt seven children, mostly boys.  Their second child, James , was born in 1768 in Govan.  He and several brothers ultimately immigrated to America where they changed the spelling of their last name to LISLE.  Not everyone who came did so.
Many of the boys settled in Penn. and married here.  James married Elizabeth (Awrey?) He had 12 children.  I assumed he  had other wives; it was common with a family that large.  The last child was born in Jefferson county, Ohio.  John, James oldest son, married a women in Ohio, Rebecca Fankboner, in 1826.  Their six children were all born in Tuscarawas county.  James died while the last two children were still young.  A good friend, George Leeper, was on hand.  I don't know his status - guardian or what.  When James (Belle) Lisle was older, he married Mary Ann Stevens Leeper in 1850 in Guernsey county.  The first two children were born in Illinois; the remaining eleven were born in Iowa.  My great-grandfather, John Belle Lisle, born in Illinois married in Iowa; they had six children.  He died in Nebraska; my grandfather found him.  My grandfather, Frank Leroy Lisle, married in 1910.  He and my grandmother, Margaret, raised six children.  I've probably given  you more info than you needed, but I wanted to tie the past to the present.  Some of the oldest records I found online, some by mail, but the best day was the first time I visited Glasgow and found some records on microfiche.  Thanks for any input you may have on any ancestor.

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Roxburghshire / ROBSON IN NEWCASTLETON & Jedburgh
« on: Thursday 09 March 17 17:08 GMT (UK)  »
 My ancestor, John Robson was born in Newcastleton abt 1799 to Andrew & Mary Robson.  I'm not sure Mary was John's mother; just that she was at least one of Andrew's wives.  Andrew was born in Jedburgh abt 1770 and died in that county; don't know the town.  John was the oldest of six (I think).  The three younger children were born in England.   John died in Aspatria, Cumberland;  one of his younger sisters died in Bewcastle, England.  I've been to all of those towns and know they aren't far apart.  But I loose track of John from from 1799 to 1838.  Would appreciate any help filling in the gaps.  John was my maternal grandmother's grandfather.  Thanks

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« on: Saturday 10 August 13 17:28 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for noticing them, Pels.  I wrote both memorials.  James Dawe was Richard's father.  I'm thinking I should go back to the early census records for Linkinhorne - like 1841 & 1851.  I need to check to see if the two men were related or neighbors.  Since both James and Richard took their families to Yorkshire and then James and others went to Lancashire, I know from my readings, others also went the same route.  It's beginning to look like Emma was buried in Lancashire with her first husband since I found her death there.  I should check the cemetery where the other Dawes are buried in Burnley.  There may be a way to check the records at St. Margaret's for Richard B Dawe's burial.  Sounds like I have some work to do.  I appreciate all your help.

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« on: Saturday 10 August 13 16:56 BST (UK)  »
Thank you Pels.  I'm still wondering how his middle name could have been Bowden as was Richard Dawe's.  It's an unusual name and equally unusual for Emma to have married two men with the same unusual middle name.  Smith makes more sense than Smeeth.  Kind of like Smyth/Smith.  According to what you found, Smeeth had only been dead one year before Emma married Richard.  It would seem Richard and Emma Smeeth lived in Lancashire where RBDawe's sons lived.  So maybe RBD met Emma on an earlier visit to his family.

Supposedly, Richard B Dawe's daughter Jessie had done a family genealogy.  That would have been something worth reading. Pels, I was just re-reading my notes on Emma and her first husband.  They lived in Guisboro, so probably knew the Dawe family from there, and the Smeeth couple was from Cornwall, not that far from where the Dawe's initially lived.  Plus both men were tin miners in the Linkinhorne, Cornwall area.  I have a similar situation in a later relationship in the same family, so it's not that unusual.  Still wonder where she and Richard B Dawe were buried.

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Yorkshire (North Riding) / Re: DAWE - Burial of Richard Bawden/Bowden
« on: Friday 09 August 13 03:13 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, again Rosie and Pels.  I had forgotten completely that I had requested the information only 8 months ago.  Richard did marry Emma in Guisboro several years after Jane had died.  I had the name of Smeeth [nee Buckingham].  I don't know the name of Emma's first husband nor do I have info on her death.  I do know Richard died in the third quarter of 1919, but no other details - exactly when, where buried. 

Thank you for coming to my aid again.  Over the years, I have always been able to depend on RootsChat for answers.

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Yorkshire (West Riding) Lookup Requests / Richard Bowden DAWE - N. Skelton area NYR
« on: Thursday 08 August 13 17:14 BST (UK)  »
I've verified that my ancestor lived in the Skelton/Brotton area from 1871 to 1911.  Free BMD says Richard died about 1919 in Yorkshire, but I've found no other info.  His wife Jane was buried in St. Margaret's Anglican churchyard in 1888.  Richard married a woman named Emma.  I've had some problems verifying her correct name.  They were both born in Cornwall.  Richard's father James had also lived in the area until his move to Lancashire and remarriage.  Two of Richard's three sons who lived had moved to Lancashire.  The third one probably did at some point also as all three "boys" eventually emigrated to Canada or the US.  They all ended up in the US.  One or more of them may have visited their father in England before his death.  The sisters and their husband lived in the NYR area for awhile.  Richard and Emma lived with one of them.  There may still be DAWE's in that area.  I know there are other relation.  Would appreciate any help with Richard death.  The three Dawe males settled in MI where there are still two families.  The third went to FL.  Thank you for your input.

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The Lighter Side / Re: No wonder we can't find our ancestors
« on: Tuesday 26 February 13 19:43 GMT (UK)  »
Luck would indeed be the operative word in genealogy/family history.  I've gotten back as far as 1700-1800 for most of my lines.  The majority of the ancestors were miners in Cornwall, Yorkshire, and Canada or farmers in Cumberland or the Midwest.  Probably a few merchants in Scotland and other places.  The most interesting group I've been able to trace is one of my son's lines going back go the 1600's during Colonial times.  It's only taken over 40 years so far.

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