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Hi DianaCanada,
Just found this thread.
Fairbairn and Fairburn are fairly interchangeable and can be found recorded as either, although generally in Scotland they seem to mainly stay as Fairbairn but if they migrate south, somehow many morph into Fairburn!
I've long wondered whether the Yorkshire families are connected to those from the Scottish Borders that are well represented in the DNA project (https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/fairbairn/about)
All lines, all DNA tests, are welcome in the project although the public results are only those for yDNA tested males at FamilyTreeDNA.
FTDNA offer a free upload from tests at the other companies (Ancestry, MyHeritage, 23andme), with a small one-off fee, often reduced during sales to unlock the tools beyond match list and contact details of your matches.
https://www.familytreedna.com/autosomal-transfer

Should you come across a direct male line descendant of your husband's Thomas, get them to take a y37 test at FTDNA for starters to get a feel for which family they may match, or not as the case may be. There are many lines not yet represented.

Lorna

Craclyn  suggests l put my info on gematch,livingDNA & FTDAND how do l do that please.

Hi Murrell
I suggest that you read the upload-download blog posts by Roberta Estes on her DNA Explained blog
https://dna-explained.com/?s=download&submit=Search

As to which to test at, Ancestry has by far the largest database and is easier to use than 23andme, but does not provide the segment details all the other companies do, so you cannot actually check that the DNA connections suggested by ThruLines are actually where the DNA comes from
https://web.archive.org/web/20140803031735/http://bitstrips.com/r/S1J61

Lorna

My quest is looking even more likely in that I'm much closer to convincing myself that William Edward AUSTEN's father William Mallars Fitz AUSTEN / Fitsaustin is one and the same as my William AUSTIN/AUSTEN married 1853 St Martin in the Fields to Emma Clinton PARKER.

The updates:
The marriage cert. in the Register Office, Whitechapel  (7 Aug 1869, not 17th as per excerpt published on this or the other related thread being continued here) of William AUSTEN (as signed) AUSTIN (as indexed) to Sarah BIGGS nee BLAKE shows both as widowed, William as 40.
Widower not being entirely accurate, although wife number one had remarried, as a spinster, in 1855.

William's death cert. (27 Oct 1905 Hackney Union Infirmary, Homerton) shows: cert. William AUSTIN as 74, railway goods porter "of 62 Crozier Tce, Homerton". Died of senile decay, chronic bronchitis; Informant J W Oliver, Assistant Superintendent, Hackney Union Infirmary, Homerton; Reg, 3 Nov 1905

Another DNA match has popped up between my lot, and a descendant of another line down from William Edward AUSTEN and Alice Maud CARTER, which pinpoints this couple as "of interest" in the original tree. We have not yet ruled out the Carter ancestry so might be guilty of confirmation bias here!

 

If I have read and understood the posts correctly:

Sarah Biggs Thompson would be half sister to Ada and William. Is that right?

Yes, I believe so.
I thought when I looked at that 1881 that it sounded a bit familiar (that John THOMPSON was born Scotland caught my eye last time I looked at it -  and completely missed the connection to Ada despite Fitz Austen being on my radar), but I was in the middle of creating a blog post about all of this given I am increasingly convinced of the dots being joined here.
So hadn't gone to check that out further

https://lornahen.blogspot.com/2019/03/i-do-so-love-mystery-or-three.html

There is a baptism on FS

William Mallars Fitzaustin -1835 - parents Daniel Fitzaustin and Caroline.

If that is a late baptism, that would be of high interest to me as a possibility.
The presence of Fitz as Mikehere states may well be showing in the firstname fields BUT
Fitz has a definition in names as
"Fitz is a prefix in patronymic surnames of Anglo-Norman origin. This usage derives from the Norman fiz / filz, pronunciation: /fits/ (cognate with French fils < Latin filius), meaning "son of"..."
(Mikehere, I interpret the 1869 birth cert. name as Fitz, not Fritz, although I've no other Fs on the page to compare the "r" you have looks like an extension of the letter F to me)

The William Mallars Fitz Austen I've been following appears to have been born around 1829, Lambeth (1871/1881 census at least)

I have a theory about the DNA match I mention in my earlier post.

Fascinated to see if can prove this particular if his mother was indeed Caroline.

I am hoping, against hope possibly, that this William might be my missing in action 2*great grandfather, and Caroline turns up as my great grandmother's first name.
Her full name being Caroline Emma Austin / Austen
where Emma is from her mother's side.

So far working on the DNA matches for this particular match we do already know that it is from one of her paternal ancestors (which includes the AUSTINs) and is looking unlikely to be from her paternal grandfather's ancestry - which is a good thing.
Work continues on seeing if DNA can work its' magic.