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BTW - if it turns out that Ann was the daughter of William and Mary Gittens, then there is a pretty good chance that the William in question WAS the son of Ralph and Elizabeth (born 1755). Pentrobyn is a good indicator that it was that William, as that is where Ralph's family lived.
They also had a George, but he wasn't born until 1766, so would have been too young to have been Ann's father if the other case turns out to be right.
Best wishes,
Richard

I just found this thread, so I don't know if you are still looking for these Messhams. If you are we have quite a bit on them. Samuel (born 31 July 1836) was the son of Ralph Messham (1797) and Elizabeth Hughes. Both Samuel and Ralph were born in Hawarden (I know Samuel says Mold in the 1881, but he says Hawarden in the earlier Censuses). You may have trouble finding them in some of the censuses - on Ancestry.co.uk Samuel is transcribed in the 1871 as 'Sasabel Mepham', and his brother Ralph is also down as Mepham, while his father is 'Ralph Micham'!!!
We have a further 3 generations of Messhams going back before Ralph - Edward (1758), Ralph (1728) and William, along with their families. Our line descends from Edward's youngest son, Joseph.
If you are interested in the info we have, plese let me know.
Best wishes,
Richard