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Hi,
I think you can only  link the dna test  to one  tree, and not have multiple  trees linked to the same  DNA  test (s)
(The test I manage, besides my own is linked to a tree on my account and not  linked to  any trees on their own account)

I found this  below on ancestry   help pages which seems to confirm it.
Kind regards


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Antrim / Re: Ulster Historical Foundation
« on: Sunday 07 April 24 01:48 BST (UK)  »
This  below is a post on their Facebook page (dated 6 Feb).
Maybe give them an email over, it's  probably teething problems with their new site and they may, or may not be aware of the problem.
Kind  regards


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Antrim / Re: Ulster Historical Foundation
« on: Sunday 07 April 24 00:53 BST (UK)  »
Hi,
I can see what you mean now.
That's  annoying. They are only searching on the  Christian name  in the marriages even with an exact search with "John Steele" , and the results are people with John Christian names and all sorts of surnames.
The  steele also disappears from the search box after the results come in. The computer  programme seems to be only searching  on the Christian  name  that you  enter, and not  the entered surname too.

If I then try a  search leaving off the first name John, and only search on a surname in the surname box , with exact too , it won't  give me any results  at all.

I can't see any way around the problem  to get steele, or any other exact surname in the results ( in the marriages)
 There's definitely  something  wrong with their marriage search ( and also their  main page search)
Maybe email them and let them know,  or ask them why  their marriage search is doing  this.
Kind regards
Ps I even tried putting Steele as a Christian  name in the marriage search,  hoping that it would somehow  fool the programme lol and it may give me the Steele surnames too ( wishful thinking)   Nope , it just  gives me one person  who so happens  to have a Christian name of Steele.

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Antrim / Re: Ulster Historical Foundation
« on: Friday 05 April 24 06:08 BST (UK)  »
These are  the baptisms  results for a John steele using "exact". It's the same for the other record  sets . The search  results will only show all John Steele's
Kind regards.

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Antrim / Re: Ulster Historical Foundation
« on: Friday 05 April 24 06:04 BST (UK)  »
 Hi,
If you go to the indvidual  record set that  you want to  search, whether it is baptisms, marriages or deaths and so on, and search from those indvidual  pages( and not  their main page -where it says   "Search our Irish Genealogy Databases" as that will throw all  different names at you in the results).
 Then  tick the "exact "in the drop down menu that says "search type", and you should  have results with only the  names of John Steele

Kind regards
Ps although when I search from their main search page now, it's not throwing  up different  names at me , my results are all John Steele's.  Maybe it was having  an odd glitch with you yesterday.  I went  onto their  site (about 4 days ago I think), and it was very glitchy then  , and threw up all sorts of names at me when I was searching for someone in their database, so I  gave up. It seems to be working perfectly now though. 

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The Common Room / Re: Ancestry tree: finding individual?
« on: Wednesday 03 April 24 01:22 BST (UK)  »
What I find really annoying  ,  and have done for years( unless I am missing  the obvious and there is this feature) when you press on a said name in someone's  tree that there isn't  any function  to show the relationships to  the home person ( or how they are supposed to be connected to the home person in the tree) . Ie steps ,an obvious path  back to the home person. 

For example  I have come across many trees that have my direct  relatives  in them  such as my grandmother and her parents , siblings  and so on but  for the life of me I can not work how on earth my relatives are connected to their home  person when are there are thousands upon thousands , upon thousands of names in their  tree  and the home person is  clearly not a close relative or none of the siblings of their  ancestors of each generation marrying a sibling of my family and so on.

I would love to see some type of clearly
marked path  ( or a tag saying 6th  cousin 5 times removed  in -law 100 times removed or  something lol )  from any given name in the tree back to the home person  in the trees, if you  know what  I mean. When a person's tree has zillions  of names and there is clearly no obvious  link  to the home person no matter how you look at  all their surrounding family, up down and wide, it's very hard, if not impossible a lot of the times  trying to discover  how that person  in their  tree is  connected to their home person in the tree.

Kind regards. 

 


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Shared 18% DNA
« on: Monday 25 March 24 09:13 GMT (UK)  »
I've actually done the DNA through Ancestr The person who shares 7% DNA is my 1st cousins daughter so she's my 2nd cousin.

Tracey
Your  first cousin  daughter is your first cousin once removed.

It's  very rare for second cousins  to be sharing 7%, almost impossible  and I know many  elderly people in my  own family incorrectly  call their 1st cousins once removed  their  second cousins
 Very Kind regards .( ps I meant  to say my mother's  cousin  and not  sister, they grew up together in the same household)


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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Shared 18% DNA
« on: Saturday 23 March 24 10:22 GMT (UK)  »
On the point about 2nd cousins.
I have 3 2C matches on MyHeritage at 3-5%, respectively 212.5, 334.7 and 316.4 cM and a fourth on FamilyTree DNA at 206 cM.
I have none on Ancestry where a 339 cM match can only be a half 1C
339 can very easily be a half  first  cousin as too a second cousin, as too a first cousin once removed. I am   not sure where  your statement of 339 is coming in when referring to second cousins or  1st  half cousins? " I have none on Ancestry where a 339 cM match can only be a half 1C" ? ?


I share  over  500cms to both my first  half cousins ( 7% and 8%) and to my full cousins  who have tested , 12% and 15% . With my highest second  cousin I share 363 ( and 5%) all my other second  cousins are 4% and vary between low 200s and high 200s

It is totally  random  the way dna is split outside that parent and child relationship, a few of my cousins , my own  child is almost matching  me with cms ( and he  100%  not double related  to them but I have basically  passed down  the full wack to him on some lines)
Tracy  had said  her known second cousin is 7%  from her mum's  side  ( its her dad's
side that she is querying and  not  her 7% known cousin on her mums side, its  just that I have picked up on that near impossible 7% for a second cousin)
The 7 %  on her mums  side I  personally think is way off   for second  cousins, not 100%  impossible of course but  7% extremely  high for second cousins to be sharing , and just  maybe  Tracey  has mixed up  first  cousin once removed with saying second cousin( ?)

If we go by percentages,  that 7% is very likely  in  the  500s cMs  and it is  a very , very low chance of her known cousin  being  her second  cousin.  I think It's more than likely that's it   her first  cousin once removed and not a second cousin.
 
My mother's  sister thinks I am her second cousin  ,  I haven't the heart to tell  about her terminology as she's  elderly. A few people  in my family  tend  to say   second  cousins when they're referring to their first cousins children , first  cousins once removed .
Kind regards  :)



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Ancestral Family Tree DNA Testing / Re: Shared 18% DNA
« on: Saturday 23 March 24 04:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Tracy,
How many cMs  do you share with them ? Whether using my heritage  or Ancestry , they both show   cMs  and  %.
Enter the cMs  that you share  with your 18% match into  a dna painter to give a more of a guestimate/ probabilities

To give  you an example of the huge  differences of using  %  instead of the cMs into DNA  painter , my probabilities drastically differ if I use the % that I share with my  known parent's  half sibling  ( who I share  17% with ) rather than our shared  cMs

 Putting  in my shared 17% percentage  in dna painter  gives  me a 32% of  me being their  half sibling or full  Nephew Niece. And 68% of being a half Aunt uncle, half nephew Niece and so on ( and will give me a "prediction" that I  may share  1265cm, I  actually  share 1162cMs )

"68% Great-Grandparent Great-Aunt / Uncle Half Aunt / Uncle 1C Half Niece / Nephew Great-Niece / Nephew Great-Grandchild

32% Grandparent Aunt / Uncle , Half Sibling Niece / Nephew Grandchild"


 Then if I put in my  shared  cMs ( 1162cM)  instead of  my  17 % that I  share ,changes the  predictions/ probabilities percentages by a huge amount- it  is then only 7% that I am a half sibling, full Nephew/Niece and a 93% that my match is my half uncle, full 1st cousin  and so on, and my % will  also change to 15.6 % instead of the 17% that both ancestry and myheritage has given us.


"93% Great-Grandparent Great-Aunt / Uncle Half Aunt / Uncle 1C Half Niece / Nephew Great-Niece / Nephew Great-Grandchild

7% Aunt / Uncle † Niece / Nephew † Grandparent, Half Sibling, Grandchild"

https://dnapainter.com/tools/sharedcmv4

If it were me , I'd  build a tree around them, and if at all possible persuade   your close relatives to test , your siblings  if any, and  if known , second  cousins on your  father's  side.

Very Kind regards .

Ps that's very  high  for a second  cousin  (your known cousin on your mum's side). You say only , "only 7%".  I share with all my  known full second  cousins  4%  (one is 5% but I share over 300 with her unlike my other second cousins who are all in their 200s)
Are you sure you don't  mean that it is   your first cousin once removed ? Ie your parent's first  cousin, or your  first cousins child. I share  that ( 7%)with my first  cousins once removed , as too my child shares that with his  first cousins once removed too .

7% puts  it  very  loosely around 521 cMs which basically there's  only a 3% chance of being second cousins,  totally possible of course, but the odds are really low.

 Only  asking are you sure  ,  because  I know of  quite  a few people in my family  that incorrectly call their 1st cousins once removed their  second cousins,  and 7% seems very  high for 2nd cousins.
Kind regards



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