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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Saturday 24 November 07 17:35 GMT (UK)  »
No - Martha wasn't living at home either.  She was in service with David and Elizabeth  (there may be a family connection I  don't know) Neath Road, Maesteg.

I have found Herbert (only one T there) on the 1901 census at  Gelli Road, Ystradyfodwg with his wife and other members of the family. And also the family together on various earlier censuses too.

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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Saturday 24 November 07 11:38 GMT (UK)  »
I do appreciate your help and don't mind your questions.

As far as I understand it William considered David as his father although he was not his natural son.  So I am guessing that David and Mary married when William was quite young.

William married Martha in 1902, Martha's father Herbert being one of the witnesses. The other was William Philip Watkins, but I had never come accross this name before receiving the certificate.  I believe that Herbert was a lay preacher - I have got a newspaper cutting of his obit. somewhere but unfortunately no note of which paper it was from nor the date.

Unfortunately I don't have any living relatives of that generation.

I grew up some distance from William and although I corresponded with him  didn't ask the right questions.

I do know that when he was grown up William went to find his natural father (allegedly a wealthy man for whom Mary had been in service) who was less than interested and sent him away with a half crown.

Just read your latest posts. 

I don't know of any links with the Millers or Lloyds.

Thanks you so much for your help - I have to go out now - but will be back later.

Very kind regards

Dina

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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Saturday 24 November 07 10:51 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry - I tried to post several replies last night which included most of this info. but it just wouldn't go through.

As far as I know there were no siblings - William was an only child.

Picton Street is in Maesteg. 

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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Saturday 24 November 07 10:24 GMT (UK)  »
Williams address on marriage certificate was 55 Picton Street and on 1901 census is 52 Ivor Street.  (This is the most likely candidate lodging with Miller family).

William Thomas on the 1901 census and on the marriage certificate

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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Friday 23 November 07 23:50 GMT (UK)  »
Thanks for your reply. 
 
I don't think that she was married before. 

Yes I've got William's marriage certificate - occupation for both William and David was collier. David was recorded as Williams father. But I know for sure that he was William's mother's husband.

Question.  Was a father recorded on marriage certificate even if they had already passed away?

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The Common Room / Re: Will RootsChat be of help to you?
« on: Friday 23 November 07 23:30 GMT (UK)  »
I'm sure that RootsChat will be of help. 

I'm very much a new girl on the block but I'm impressed with the quality of the responses already received and I've got a lot of research ahead. 

I'm looking forward getting to know this online community and to the giving and receiving of help and information. 


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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Friday 23 November 07 22:48 GMT (UK)  »
Sorry for the late reply - things to do and then the computer was playing up and after all that I had to go to work AND join in a special after work
do.

The address on grandpa Williams's birth certificate (1880) was 4 Temple Street, Maesteg, but this was recorded as unoccupied in the 1881 census. The occupation of W's father's (in reality his step father) was collier. (marriage cert 1902).

I've found William on the 1902 census - but by that time he appears to have left home and is a boarder elsewhere.

The bit about the nursemaid is interesting but poses many questions.   Is 15 too young to be mother of a six month old baby?

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Glamorganshire / Re: Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Thursday 22 November 07 20:53 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Osprey and Fisherman

thanks for your posts.

I had found this marriage too, unfortunately this doesn't seem to be the right on. I've been in touch with the Bridgend Register office who have looked it up and it seems that this Mary was 23 - which would have made her 12 when my GF was born.  Also I understood that my David was older than she was but BRO told me that the groom was younger than the bride in this instance.

I don't know my Mary's age.  I expect that she would have been quite young when she fell pregnant. 

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Glamorganshire / Thomas / Griffiths - Maesteg
« on: Thursday 22 November 07 20:20 GMT (UK)  »
Would anyone be able to give me some advice about trying to get over a brick wall with regard to my Great Grandmother, please?

My grandfather was born to Mary Griffiths in October 1880 but I couldn't find a trace of them in the 1881 census. The address, given on the birth certificate, was recorded as empty in 1881.  She was an unmarried mum - not good at that time - and no named father but family myth says that he was her employer, a well off landowner in the area, who took no responsibility for the child. 

How accurate is the 1881 census? Is it likely that she wasn't included?

She did marry later to a David Thomas but I don't have a clue what date it was. A preliminary search hasn't yield much luck in BMD.

Are there any good tips on searching over the internet? Sadly I can't do the research in person.

I must add that the Registry Office at Bridgend have been very helpful so far (no names mentioned to spare their blushes!)




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