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The Common Room / Re: Assessment for the relief of the poor of Marple
« on: Sunday 23 April 06 14:15 BST (UK)  »
Hi Wendi
thanks for your comment regarding the Assessment for Relief document.  Good idea to check with my local LDS center. I'd not thought of that!  :-\    I'll ask when I go to order the burials stuff for Marple. 
Netty

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The Common Room / Re: 1841 census - It's arrived!!
« on: Thursday 20 April 06 18:48 BST (UK)  »
Woop! Woop! Woop!
thanks for letting us know - I've been watching for it for days and it had slipped right past me!

Well, that's a carry out for tea tonight because I'm going to be looking at the 1841!

Netty

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The Common Room / Assessment for the relief of the poor of Marple
« on: Thursday 20 April 06 18:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi all,

I've just been looking on the LDS Family History Library Catalogue for documents relating to Marple, Cheshire and came accross the following film:

Assessment for the relief of the poor of Marple, Cheshire  1842-1861  

Does anyone know what this might contain?  Is it likely to be documents containing a list of persons applying for/getting Poor Relief in the village?

TIA
Netty


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England / Re: Registering a childs surname - 1940s
« on: Friday 23 December 05 16:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hi
Thanks Guy and Mary for your comments. Very helpful :)   

I'm also inclined to agree that by the time child number 3 came along my gran and granddad were well established as a couple and gave up mentioning that they weren't married. It might be interesting to send off for that childs certificate just to see if gran was actually claiming to have remarried by that time! (which I know she wasn't)
Netty

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England / Registering a childs surname - 1940s
« on: Wednesday 14 December 05 17:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hi all

does anyone know the ins and outs of what fathers details could be put on birth certificates and what names children had to be registed as?

The Situation Was This:
My gran "had to get married" as my mum was on the way in 1939/40. I'm led to believe that the couple seperated when my mum was very young.

My gran met another man shortly after she seperated from her husband and Gran went on to have 4 more children, all of which were (allegedly) fathered by this man.   The 1st 2 children, born in 1942 and 1944 were registered in the surname of her estranged husband although they've always been known by the lovers surname.

My mum assures me that these 2 children were fathered by grans lover and not by her husband (ie my mums dad).

The 3rd and 4th children were born in 1946 and 1948 registered in the surname of my grans lover. My gran married her lover shortly after the birth of this 4th child. Presumably her divorce had come through by this time and she was free to marry?

The surviving children (my uncles) had no idea they were born out of wedlock until after my gran had died in 1977 and were shocked to say the least!    :o

My question is this:
Assuming my gran and her lover went to register the first 2 births together in 1942 and 1944 is there any reason why those children would have had to take her married surname rather than that of their father (grans lover)   I've not seen a copy of the certificates so I'm assuming the lover was listed as the father. 

Could my grans husband have been listed as the father simply because he was still married to her even though he wasnt the father? 
  
Would the lover have to have been present with gran to register the birth if she were naming him as the father of her child?

Netty

PS The "lover" was the most wonderful man in the world. The man I called Granddad. I'm ROFLing lots at the thought of my beloved granddad being my grans Live In Lover!  ;D  Bless him!


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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Parish registers, the IGI and all that...
« on: Friday 09 September 05 17:16 BST (UK)  »
Hi JAP and all

just a quick update.  I've recieved the film of the parish registers for Hope but it doesnt give me any further information except the name of the 2 witnesses. One of them, somebody called Woodroofe appears as a witness on every single marriage (profesional witness maybe?) and the other name is rather unclear but doesnt appear to share the same surname as either the bride or the groom.

Shame, but at least I've confirmed that the dates and names given on the IGI are correct.

Netty

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Parish registers, the IGI and all that...
« on: Thursday 11 August 05 11:36 BST (UK)  »
Thanks for that Sillgen

a valid point and one certainly worth mentioning.  I shall bear that in mind during my searches. I'm quite encouraged and hopeful that Fanny Marsden christened in 1794 with parents Betty and Ambrose is a good candidate for my ancestor who goes on to name a son Ambrose and a daughter Betty. 

Having danced a gig at my good fortune, having an LDS Family History Center a mere 3 minutes walk away, I found the place closed up and empty yesterday when I called in. Luckily I noticed a car outside there today and popped in and find they've just changed their opening hours which is why the place was empty yesterday when I called in!  I can't tell you how relieved I am as I dont drive and would find getting to the next nearest one very difficult.  How lucky I am!  :)

As suggested by Casalguidi I've ordered the parish registers so I can check them for myself to see if I can glean any more information from them.

Many thanks for your help and comments so far.

Netty



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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Parish registers, the IGI and all that...
« on: Wednesday 10 August 05 08:08 BST (UK)  »
Hi again,
just as a PS to my last post, my Joseph Timm and Fanny go on to have a family which, according to the 1861 census includes a son, Ambrose and a daughter, Betty.  Possibly named after Fanny's parents?  (I hadn't connected this last night - rather tired!)   It will be interesting to follow the life of the other Fanny to see if any of her children are possibly named after the parents. 
Netty

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: Parish registers, the IGI and all that...
« on: Wednesday 10 August 05 07:43 BST (UK)  »
Good morning everyone

many thanks for your thoughts on my Fanny Marsden problem and for the advice you've given me.  Very much appreciated. 

As luck would have it I do have an LDS Family History Center about 3 minutes walk from where I live!  :)  Would I be right in thinking that if I order the films that contains the marriages of the Fanny Marsdens that they might contain more information (such as witnesses) than that given on the IGI online?  I'd assumed that the IGI entries contained the only information given from those registers.  I still have lots to learn!  ::)

As I've never got to this point with any of my ancestors, this is the 1st time I've had to think about ordering parish register films.  How very exciting!  :)

Netty


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