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United States of America / Re: Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Monday 04 September 23 12:02 BST (UK)  »
…Cohoes had quite a few Irish immigrants, particularly spinning mill workers who had come to work in the newly opened Harmony Mills. My ancestor was a weaver, so she found employment there.  The 1880 census shows that many of her co workers were also Irish…

I originally popped into your posting to see if I could be of any help.  Reading about jmagarac’s experiences was very interesting.  But, I found the above to be a possible “aha moment”.  Hubby’s ancestors were born in Ireland, most likely met in Scotland (where they married), immigrated 1869 or early 1870, and lived in Lansingburgh, NY until the mid-1870s.  (Female ancestor worked in a Scottish jute mill; they were living in her relatives’ home in 1870.)  Perhaps her relatives wrote to them and encouraged them to immigrate and work in a local mill.  It’s something for me to think about.  :)
Hi I’m really glad this has given you food for thought!
I believe the newer mill at harmony opened in 1872, that is the year my ggg grandmother emigrated.
She had friends already out there, so like your ancestor, I believe she’d got a letter telling her about the opportunities!
Belfast in 1870 was in the midst of a smallpox epidemic. Family members died of it. It was really a no brainier to leave and seek a better life elsewhere.

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United States of America / Re: Getting a copy of a death Certificate for Cohoes NY
« on: Sunday 03 September 23 16:05 BST (UK)  »
Hi
I have recently discovered that my Ggg grandmother Maria Cumberland formerly Magee nee Hobson died 9 feb 1924 in Cohoes N.Y.


Schenectady Gazette
Monday, Feb 11, 1924
Schenectady, NY
Page: 2
Brilliant as ever! Thank you so much for this.

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United States of America / Re: Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Sunday 03 September 23 15:31 BST (UK)  »
Schenectady Gazette
Monday, Feb 11, 1924
Schenectady, NY
Page: 2
Oh WOW!!!
What an amazing find!
Thank you so much for posting this!!

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United States of America / Re: Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Sunday 03 September 23 14:19 BST (UK)  »
You might find this interesting - and perhaps helpful. When immigrants came to America, they often moved to neighborhoods already established by their fellow countrymen. We called them enclaves. If someone were looking for someone, we could often give them a possible suggestions/directions simply based on the sound or spelling of the surname. Not so curiously, it was the same in death. These enclaves prepared for the inevitable... and bought lots in specific sections in the local cemeteries. If they hadn't previously bought a plot - there was usually an open grave space within that section.

That being said... I worked in a previously mentioned cemetery with my father (for a summer job) and often remarked how some sections were almost exclusively IRISH. Others were Polish. The Italians were down low in the grounds and had the most mausoleums. My relatives were buried in an old section, often with tombstones that read Ovde Poćiva u Miru Božjem.

Section "C' were the Irish. I remember it well. I walked the grounds repeatedly (as I was a hand pushing lawnmower grass cutter). Section C were all the classic Irish names. Also family members bought entire lots (sections containing plots). Section C was full and had been for a long, long time... it was not surprising to see that a section adjoining and slightly above (Section F) was an extension of the Irish families. It began right where C left off and continued to the right for half an acre, until it petered off into more generic sounding names.

I mention this because if your ancestor was Irish... they may have done the same things in the Oakwood Cemetery.
Thank you for this, it really is an interesting and enlightening observation. Cohoes had quite a few Irish immigrants, particularly spinning mill workers who had come to work in the newly opened Harmony Mills. My ancestor was a weaver, so she found employment there. The 1880 census shows that many of her co workers were also Irish.
If anyone knows of an “Irish section” at Oakwood I’d love to know about it.
Thanks again jmagarac

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United States of America / Re: Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Saturday 02 September 23 09:55 BST (UK)  »
Thank you everyone.
I have sent an email to the cemetery.
Hopefully they will respond as I can’t go there in person.
It would be nice to know.

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United States of America / Re: Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Friday 01 September 23 22:47 BST (UK)  »
…It states that she was interred in Oakwood Cemetery Troy, N.Y.
I checked Family search and the following location of her grave is given - 5   329 55-4
…She was buried on 12 February 1924…

Could it have been Section 5, Row 329, Plot 55, Grave 4
Thank you that’s very logical, however looking at the most recent maps, the sections are labelled with letters but the reference does not have this so it’s not possible to pinpoint the section.

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United States of America / Re: Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Friday 01 September 23 14:45 BST (UK)  »
Thank you everyone.
I believe the cemetery must have been remapped at some point between 1924 and present, as there are only numbers and no letters on the reference.

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United States of America / Oakwood Cemetery Troy N.Y
« on: Friday 01 September 23 12:21 BST (UK)  »
Hello,
I’ve just obtained a death certificate for my GGG grandmother, who emigrated from Ireland to US in the 1870s.
It states that she was interred in Oakwood Cemetery Troy, N.Y.
I checked Family search and the following location of her grave is given - 5   329 55-4
Does anyone know of a map of the cemetery that makes sense of the above co ordinates?
She was buried on 12 February 1924.

Many thanks

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United States of America / Re: Getting a copy of a death Certificate for Cohoes NY
« on: Thursday 08 June 23 20:52 BST (UK)  »


Funeral of Mrs Hyde (Phoebe Jones/Jewett/Hyde

The Times Record Troy, New York
Fri, 31 Dec 1965 Page 12

https://www.newspapers.com/article/the-times-record/126064453/

Sandra
These are brilliant thank you for posting Sandra!

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