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Fife / Re: Auchterderran & Kinglassie M.I's pre-1855
« on: Sunday 05 October 14 17:43 BST (UK)  »
Hi Elaine

I am interested in the name Penman please.
Also I had been led to believe there may be Colliar/Colliers buried in Auchterderran but didn't see it on your list.

Regards
Donna

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Fife / Re: Colliar/Collier Family from Fife
« on: Thursday 04 September 08 10:02 BST (UK)  »
Have you checked for possible marriages for Mary?

1867 DICK JOHN married COLLIER MARY at LESLIE FIFE

 1864 SMITH THOMAS married COLLIER MARY at KIRKCALDY FIFE

1871 NOYES G married COLLIER MARY at LEITH NORTH EDINBURGH CITY

Hi Santci
I can certainly check these out - can you give me more info o where you found the detials please.
Many thanks for you help
Donna

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Fife / Re: Colliar/Collier Family from Fife
« on: Thursday 04 September 08 10:00 BST (UK)  »
Hello Donna

Like yourself, using the more usual resources, I cannot find the link you need.  Would the family have belonged to other than the Church of Scotland? As you can get to Edinburgh, perhaps some discussions with the staff at the Archives may reveal some other sources. Alternatively could there be such as an irregular marriage in the Kirk sessions of Auchterderran - if they have survived?

I have found a couple of my Fifers married in Leith - someone with more knowledge of the area may be able to explain as to why - but looking outside of Fife may also be an option.

Apologies that I cannot be more helpful, I certainly agree it is somewhat of a leap of faith when the link cannot be found.

Trish

Edit: I notice Elaine is offering MI lookups for Auchterderran here
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,182463.0.html

Could there be any MIs that would help your search?


Hi Trish
NAS will have to be my next port of call.  I do think that after a certain period you have to think logically and that is why I'm pretty sure Robert and Betty are parents to James.  I've also wondered why I cannot trace any siblings for William as I am sure that he would not be an oonly child but your theory of belonging to another Church (or no church at all) may will provide the answer.

Thanks for your suggestions.
Take care
Donna

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Fife / Re: Colliar/Collier Family from Fife
« on: Wednesday 03 September 08 12:46 BST (UK)  »
As an aside to my original query can anyone help me with an idea of where to search next on the following:

I have a copy of William Colliar's death certificate that clearly states James Colliar as his father and Christina Penman as his mother.
William was born 12 mar in either 1812 or 1813 in Auchterderran, Fife and he
died in 1884 in Kinaird, Cleish, Scotland.

What I would love to know now is:
How can I prove a link to William and James when I cannot trace William's birth or evidence of James and Christina?

It has long been a family idea that James is the son of Robert Collyer and Betty Dick from Auchterderran and his birth was on the 11 May 1777.  I have a copy of this excerpt from the parish records but I cannot trace a link from James to William and it is driving me mad.

Any help however small will be much appreciated and if there is anything I can do to help anyone else out please let me know.

I go through to GROS in Edinburgh regular and can be found at the Churchyard and Cememtries of Fife many a weekend.
 

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United States of America / Re: Christina Glass Gage - Michigan
« on: Tuesday 02 September 08 21:58 BST (UK)  »
The excitement even hit my spelling! It was just such a shock to come across all this information in one place. My dad's (William Gage Mack) birthday was 10th August, but I am not sure what year. I lost my mum when I was 11 and dad at 18, so family history is sketchy. My mum was Isabella Gage and I believe they were cousins.

Hi DAGMA

Glad to be of help.  I'll PM you with my email address and if you like I can send you what info I have on the Macks, Gages etc.  Quite a few of the Mack's still live near me in Fife.

Take care
Donna

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United States of America / Re: Christina Glass Gage - Michigan
« on: Tuesday 26 August 08 16:18 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shelly

This is definitely the correct family, Thank you so much for your help.  It is much appreciated.
It was interesting to see the newspaper cutting as Christina's parents died in 1920 and before 1933 so unless it was with the Macks, then perhaps the NEighbours rumour is true!
Take care
Donna

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United States of America / Re: Christina Glass Gage - Michigan
« on: Monday 25 August 08 21:39 BST (UK)  »
Hi Shellyesq

I cannot thank you enough as this sounds exactly the Christina I was after.

She was married before to a William Mack on the 28 June 1912 in Thornton, Scotland but he died in 1918 in France.

She had two children with him John Mack and William Gage Mack, but the the rumour is that she left them with a neighbour to go to the USA when she married William Shields.

I will certainly pm you to obtain details of the living relatives.

Thanks you again so much.
Donna

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United States of America / Re: Christina Glass Gage - Michigan
« on: Sunday 24 August 08 23:49 BST (UK)  »
Who are you trying to research in the US?

Christina and her husband or her parents?

I'm trying to obtain info on either Christina or her offspring.  I know that her parents didn't emigrate so that line enquiry is out but equally Christina would have died by 1992 as she was born in 1892 so I am hoping to find details of her death or that of any children she may have had in the US.

Many thanks
Take care
Donna

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United States of America / Christina Glass Gage - Michigan
« on: Sunday 24 August 08 11:00 BST (UK)  »
Hello

I am trying to trace relatives of Christina Glass Gage who emigrated from Kirkcaldy, Scotland to Grand Rapids, Michigan in 1930.

She was born on the 13 March 1892 in Helensburgh, Scotland and married William Shields on the 25 January 1918 in Kirkcaldy, Scotland.

William was born on the 14 July 1875 in Dunfermline, Scotland.

I am researching the Colliar family tree and Christina's mother was Isobel Taylor Colliar, father John William Gage.

Many thanks
Take care
Donna

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