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The Lighter Side / Family reunion ... for 4.500 people !
« on: Yesterday at 08:46 »
An article in the (online) Guardian today:
'It could be huge. It could be a nightmare': attempting the largest family reunion in the world

AJ Jacobs tracked down as many distant relations as he could, but would he beat the world record of 4,500?

Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Re: Katsinellenboggin
« on: Thursday 15 March 18 16:13 GMT (UK)  »
Where did the weird spelling come from?
It should be Katzenellenbogen = cat's elbow, though I don't know what the significance is.
Isn't it a variety of wine?

I also remember the song : "Gilly Gilly Ossenfeffer Katzenellenbogen by the sea".

But ... I am (vaguely) related to the KATZENELLENBOGEN Family, so I found this snippet quite interesting.

Roughly translated, it means
 [1] A corruption of the hebrew  Kazim Elim Bochen  - translated:  the sole leader of the tribe.


Google Books

Family History Beginners Board / Re: Going Digital - How Do I ?
« on: Tuesday 13 March 18 14:28 GMT (UK)  »
That's my sort of thing ! What other free sites are there, and/or how do I find them ?

There is an (older) topic here, that will help. Last checked in 2013 but many of the links will still be available.

Topic: What's Free on the Net - Part 2
It's worth repeating the last comment of that topic here:
Just a reminder for anybody else looking that ALL the resources boards on Rootschat are, effectively "What's Free on the Net" - it was thought much tider to have resources boards arranged by county etc..

In general, browsing the board "Useful Links" ( ) should bring up lots of ... dare I say it ? ... useful (and free) links :)

Good luck,

The Lighter Side / Re: My Cousin told his friend We're Related ''Sort Of''
« on: Saturday 10 March 18 08:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Intevel,

There is a well known saying: "you can choose your friends, but you can't choose your relatives."

Relatives are people, just like non-relatives
    - Some we like better than others,
    - some we get on with better than others

but... we can't force them to think like we do - that's life !


This topic has now been locked.

Europe / Re: Klaas/Gerber, Switzerland
« on: Saturday 10 March 18 08:33 GMT (UK)  »
Hello D.Klaas,

Looking for info on a Paul Klaas born  1921 in Klosters, Switzerland and married a  Vera E Gerber in 1953.  Would like to know where they were wedded and what date.

In his (her?) original posting in 2009 'geekmon' didn't mention any family relationships or other reasons for this request.

He hasn't been online since then. If he has switched on "notification if answers on this topic", then he will have already received an e-mail notification, that you have replied on this topic.

Just in case he hasn't switched on notifications, I've also sent geekmon a PM (private mesage) to let him know you have replied here.

Good luck !

Technical Help / Re: Back Up Your Research!
« on: Wednesday 07 March 18 08:23 GMT (UK)  »
Many people make sequenced back ups, i.e. have a number of back ups made on different days in case one of the back ups fails as well as the master.

One of the most common schemes is to have three copies "Grandfather, father, Son (GFS)".
Say you have three external hard-drives HD1, HD2, HD3

Week 1 : backup to HD1 = "Son"
Week 2 : backup to HD2 = "Son", HD1 = "Father"
Week 2 : backup to HD3 = "Son", HD2 = "Father", HD1 = "Grandfather"
Week 4 : backup to HD1 = "Son", HD3 = "Father", HD2 = "Grandfather"
Week 5 : backup to HD2 = "Son", HD1 = "Father", HD3 = "GrandFather"
Week 6 : backup to HD3 = "Son", HD2 = "Father", HD1 = "GrandFather"
Week 7 : backup to HD1 = "Son", HD3 = "Father", HD2 = "GrandFather"
Week 8 : backup to HD2 = "Son", HD1 = "Father", HD3 = "GrandFather"
Week 9 : backup to HD3 = "Son", HD2 = "Father", HD1 = "GrandFather"

Businesses might have 7 such copies (and backup daily) with extra backups per month.
It depends on how important it is to have copies to come back to,  and - especially for us - how much time it takes to replace all the files, images, and information you have collected in the course of time ( if indeed you can actually find replacements !!)
more on rotation schemes here:

In general I try to follow the GFS method (roughly once a month) and on days when I am doing a lot on the computer (editing files, etc.), then I also make backups (almost) immediately after.


ps. I have mentioned elsewhere, that some people use the OSISHMAB method.
i.e. in the moment when the hard-disk crashes (irretrievably) they say:
Oh S*** I Should Have Made A Backup

Speaking as one who knows this method (very well !!) I can only say, regardless of the method -

Make Backups - Often !!!

The Common Room / Maria Elisabeth O'CARROL, died 1832 in Hildesheim ...
« on: Tuesday 06 March 18 16:38 GMT (UK)  »
In 'my' german forum they have a sub-forum "Random findings", where members post (unexpected) stuff they have found, which might be of interest to someone, somewhere ...

A member posted this today:
O'Carroll † in Hildesheim
Maria Elisabeth O'Carroll, ein Fräulein (Miss) von hohem Stande, aus London, 61 Jahre alt, gestorben an Brustkrankheit und Lungenentzündung.

There is also a link to the image of the death register.

So if you are connected to an O'Carroll, and are wondering where Maria Elisabeth disappeared to, perhaps this might help.


The Lighter Side / "Thirteen million degrees of Kevin Bacon"
« on: Friday 02 March 18 12:26 GMT (UK)  »
I found this article in a german newspaper today.

"Größter Stammbaum verbindet 13 Millionen Menschen"
i.e Biggest family tree connects 13 million people"

The german article was a report on an article in "Science"
Thirteen million degrees of Kevin Bacon: World’s largest family tree shines light on life span, who marries whom.

Researchers have published what may be the largest family tree ever: a genealogy database stretching back 5 centuries that links 13 million people related by blood or marriage. The tree has already led to such insights as the link between genes and longevity and why our ancestors married whom they did. And researchers say that’s just a start.  [...]


Family History Beginners Board / Re: 're pluteci
« on: Tuesday 27 February 18 07:58 GMT (UK)  »
... and also, add a reply to this topic
He/she won't be notified unless you post on the relevant thread. Here is the link

Even if 'nikkib_1986' doesn't answer, it may be seen by others who are also interested in these names and families :)

Good Luck,

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