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Europe / Re: Need Help Translating Possibly German Shorthand
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 15:09 BST (UK)  »
Looks like Peonie is right !

Animei from the german forum has confirmed this :)
es ist deutsche Kurzschrift.
Das ist der Text (die "gute Marie" steht in dem Steno-Text allerdings nicht):
She added an image of the quote, which I am including here.


Europe / Re: Need Help Translating Possibly German Shorthand
« on: Wednesday 08 August 18 08:13 BST (UK)  »
Hi dakrause

I have added a link to your  topic to a german family history forum.

There are several members there, who are also members of RootsChat.
If anybody there can help, they may answer here directly or in the german forum.
I'll copy any replies in the german forum here for you (and for others who are now curious and are watching this topic :) ).


Europe / Re: German grandmother
« on: Thursday 26 July 18 15:14 BST (UK)  »
Some locations in Eastern and Central Europe "changed hands" so often, that they could have been labelled as being in Germany / Prussia / Poland / Austro-Hungarian-Empire at different times.
In your later Post you say there are the letters oftpw after the name. When you check out Sütterlin Schrift you‘ll see the letters say ostpr (Eastprussia)
So you are most likely looking for the second link

i looked on ancestry but cant find census for kessler osterode
There were very few censuses in Germany / Prussia / Poland / Austro-Hungarian-Empire.
Certainly none of this "every ten years", as in USA, UK, Ireland and some other places
(we don't realise how spoilt we are, until we start looking outside these "regular census" countries :) )


Europe Resources & Offers / Re: Sharing Useful Links: GERMANY and E. Europe
« on: Thursday 26 July 18 14:55 BST (UK)  »
If you are looking for place names in Germany (or Prussia), this is the place to be ! and enter the name you are searching for in "Ortsname" (Place name)
You will then see a map showing all occurences of this name, with a list of contexts (parish, town, bishopric, admin-district, etc.) for this name

Click on any link in this list for more details, e.g. where they "belonged" at different times.

It is a german site, so some knowledge of german helps, but it is mainly tables of "facts" (names, places, dates) so you should be able to get the gist of most of it.

And if not, start a new query on RootsChat and ask there for help :)


ps. There are also place names from all over the world in this database, but with the emphasis on Europe.
See the coverage-map on this descripion page:

Europe / Re: German grandmother
« on: Thursday 26 July 18 14:37 BST (UK)  »
Just to be absolutely clear, there are definitely two places called Osterode,

(As a tip for anybody seeking places in Germany, Prussia, etc,)
click on and enter "Ortsname" (Place name)
If you enter Osterode you will see a map showing both locations, with a list of contexts for this name

- one is the Osterode, Harz,

- the other is in what was then Germany (East Prussia) and is now in present day Poland

The links are all to a german site GOV - Geschichtliche Orts-verzeichnis (Historical Place Directory),
which shows where places names can be found (and in which context : parish, town, bishopric, admin-district, etc.), and where they "belonged" at different times.


ps. I used to visit a customer in Osterode, Harz, so I definitely know where that one is ! :)

Hi Diane,

Welcome to RootsChat :)

I've split your posting to form a new topic, as the original topic was meant for technichal questions.

Good luck !

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