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Durham / Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« on: Tuesday 12 December 17 01:10 GMT (UK)  »
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Bloody hell, am I an inbred!?

I wonder if tjh1989 has been given flawed biological information about 'breeding'  :o  :-\

Just because the two parties to a marriage have same surname as each other prior to their marriage does not mean that it follows that there will be adverse consanguinity matters needing consideration simply because the couple formally marry each other.  The matter of consanguinity does not need a piece of paper to show a formal, legal marriage relationship between two people, who through their (domestic) relationship become parents.   

Nor do two people who are in a close biological relationship (and have children together) need to have the same surname as each other, whether they marry each other or not.   First cousins for example may have same surname, but may well have different surnames ….  Even where there’s formal marriage registrations, even double first cousins can of course have different surnames from each other. 

http://www.genetics.edu.au/publications-and-resources/facts-sheets/fact-sheet-18-when-parents-are-relatives-consanguinity 

JM  I have modified the post by adding words in parentheses. 

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Durham / Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« on: Monday 11 December 17 23:48 GMT (UK)  »
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JSYP-MLB  Christening 8 Dec 1850

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VBZL-8SC 1871

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q271-MH6P 1881 Notice Geo’s sister in law is with the family, and she was born same locality as Geo’s wife Jane.  The sister in law was Hannah GARDINER - so I think it is likely Hannah and Jane would be sisters. 

 

JM

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Durham / Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« on: Monday 11 December 17 22:58 GMT (UK)  »
1851  :) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SGJP-VMM

Nope, I don't see anything odd there at all, sorry.   I was an attendant to my best friend's marriage in 1970s.  Her maiden surname and her married surname is definitely not your popular SMITH, BROWN, JONES variety, nor even as popular as GARDINER/GARDENER/GARDNER.  According to white pages listings, there's less than ten entries in the current phone books for all of New South Wales, Australia, and eight of those are in Sydney, NSW.  However, my friend and her husband do not share a common ancestor, only a common surname.   JM

Hi there,

I see nothing odd or unlikely about Jane's maiden surname being same as her married surname.    Have you looked for the marriage, or for births of siblings for the baby being registered?

JM

You don't think it's unusual that a man and a woman with the same surname should marry? It's not exactly as common as 'Smith'!

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Durham / Re: Mother's maiden name is the same as the father's surname
« on: Monday 11 December 17 22:44 GMT (UK)  »
Hi there,

I see nothing odd or unlikely about Jane's maiden surname being same as her married surname.    Have you looked for the marriage, or for births of siblings for the baby being registered?

JM

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Australia / Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« on: Monday 11 December 17 22:02 GMT (UK)  »
Do you have Maud's Vic BDM 1889 marriage registration (#3850) ?   What info did she give about herself, her origins - who were the witnesses - who provided consent for the marriage as she was likely not yet 21 years of age?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,373754.0.html 
Marriages 
 Date and place of marriage;
name and surnames;
conjugal condition, whether bachelor or spinster, widow or widower,
 stating date of decease of former wife or husband;
 children by each former marriage;
birthplace;
 occupation;
 age;

 residence (present and usual);
 parent's names of each party (including mother's maiden name) and occupation of  father;
 signatures of the parties and witnesses;
 signature of Minister.


JM

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Australia / Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« on: Monday 11 December 17 03:33 GMT (UK)  »

Eva was not the first born but her older brother had succumbed before her birth  :'(  :'(  See Jas SMITH’s birth #32829 and death #15911 both registered 1890, Vic BDM.  Both with parents as Jas and Maud and with McDonald as Maud’s former surname. 

JM

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Suez Canal opened in 1869, George born circa 1884.


JM

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Australia / Re: Smoothy family - Tasmania to Victoria
« on: Sunday 10 December 17 07:20 GMT (UK)  »
Just for clarity ... Harriet Emily SMOOTHY and Robert MATSON married in New Zealand in 1901.  #2395
 

JM

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Family History Beginners Board / Re: The word/name Baiddey
« on: Sunday 10 December 17 06:22 GMT (UK)  »
Nope, Experts are drips under pressure.     I am NSW centric.  My first migrant ancestors arrived in NSW in the 1790s.  I have ancestors who came under sentence of a criminal court, others who came as part of garrison forces and others who came free as Missionaries. Then there are others who came free intending to fleece the general population, while there are some who arrived suffering gold fever, and some who were Bounty immigrants, or Assisted in some way to get here. 

JM

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