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World War One / Re: my grt grandad john laidlaw
« on: Tuesday 02 August 22 21:57 BST (UK)  »
whilst he was in india leison gower wwas also there he was supposed to be my grt grandfathers grandfather but it was never proven they met and levison gower said to john apparently i'm prepared to accept you  as my grandson and heirand heir if you will accept me as your grandfather but john rebuked him stating the time to accept me was when my mother was pregnant with me, so no i wont be your heir its only because of death duties you are pepared to accept me now; so no i wont be your heir.

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World War One / Re: my grt grandad john laidlaw
« on: Tuesday 02 August 22 21:40 BST (UK)  »
This is John Laidlaw who served in 18th Hussars in WW1 (13432) but his previous service was with 11th Hussars (3347).

Enlisted 1891 aged 22.
Served overseas in India 1893-1899 and South Africa 1899-1902
Clasps for Relief of Mafeking, Diamond Hill, Orange Free State, Defence of Ladysmith
Married Marjory C W Brown in Edinburgh in 1904,
I thought he was 32 (at least he was 32 and she was 19 when they met he got her pregnant and they married

   

when they married, their firstborn son john walker brown laidlaw they found him dead in his cot on the first anniversary of their marriage that seems to be the time he went back to the 
 calvalry to fight, in the boerwar by the time he came home again to holyrood palace where he would have reported on his return he was about40 or 49 possibly and was sick with sleeping sickness he tried to sign up again, this time i think it was because his daughter had not long died of consumption, but he was told that he was not well enough to fight again they suggested home duties, but he asked and again they told him he wasnt well enough for that either, he went into glasgows victoria hospital and died there I think it was on the 3rd of april 1923 he's entombed in rosemount cemetary
https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBM%2FWO97%2F5301%2F075%2F001&parentid=GBM%2FWO97%2F5301%2F925019

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Lanarkshire / Re: Muriel May Smith/Hamilton
« on: Monday 01 August 22 02:38 BST (UK)  »
I s also given to understand they were murdered upon a ship. and that is why i said upon his arrival he was taken away never tobe set free again.
my familyare related to most of the svottiih families. gordons the hamltond th sutherlsnds the frasersditntly related to thh marquis o salisbury.

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Lanarkshire / Re: Muriel May Smith/Hamilton
« on: Monday 01 August 22 02:24 BST (UK)  »
so do I take it that james married twice?and i am related to both sides of the family. as robin campbell is the daughter of the chief of the clan campbell,maybe you can find out for me something on my laidlaw side of my family. such as on colonsay there is a mentionon   the cemetaph werethe ferry used tocome in before they sta, his name is started building s bigger port/ferry terminal around the back of the island  his name is peter laidlaw,I wnt to find out if he ws born  there if so who tobecause as far as i a aware all of our famiy .nopeter mentioned anywhere amongst themwere all born on the mainland, but this one ismentioned as though he fought smewherrcame or lived there and was buried there somewhere in the church grounds as thoughhe belonged there, Imut sfmit that maybe he was an objevtor didnt want to fight and moved there so no-one would know where he was ,but then how did he die and to be remembered that way as though he cme from the island and fought for his country, all my family are johns(my grt granfather fought in india during the uprising, I nearly had an argument with jimi1 for on thing he called me marciawhich i am not.
then he said i was getting confuse between the boer war and the firt world war which I wasnt. my grt grandfatherwas in 18th hussars cavalry, lat but  ot lea he stateed he couldnt have won the bar ad rose for gallantry because it isnt registered st the aldershot barracks nothing there mentions a john laidlaw being awarded any such medal,  for a start he would have reported to the queens holy rood house palace in edinburgh whose name i cant remember, due to my stroke androbert jimmi or james and alexandertheir first son was john walker laidlaw but he was found dead on the night of theirfirst anniversary.

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Argyllshire / Re: Cambells, McTaggarts of Argyll
« on: Tuesday 22 February 22 23:52 GMT (UK)  »
now also looking for a connection between my family of o'may and smith and the campbells as my carer is a campbell

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The Common Room / Re: An ancestor's moment you'd like to have witnessed?
« on: Tuesday 22 February 22 21:26 GMT (UK)  »
when my grt grandfather met with levison -gower and refuse him his wish to have john accept being his grandson and accept what would have been his inheritance as his grandson being left in debt for all of his life through non-payment death duty taxes which would have forever and a day efected the whole of our family for decades to come.

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Europe / Re: Loquet
« on: Saturday 19 February 22 18:26 GMT (UK)  »
I should have said that the family were farmers and locksmiths and when he went up upto durham we think Jacob who we think was his brother stood in as bestman after the marriage they returned  to Belgium but lily was pregnant when the 2nd ww started so they got themselves out of there and came to england where Albert was born, he could not fight because he suffered from colour blindness; but he was a draughtsman and an engineer, he designed the choc/tow bar for the spitfires to be towed out onto the runway before taking off and the carriage for the bombs for the hurricanes to be taken up inside the bodies of the hurricane and was involved with the light seaplanes and manufacture of the parts that the germans were informed were tractor parts that were being shipped out to malta which in fact were aircraft replacement parts but did they know it so we could come up behind them.
but in barrys family as in mine we both have browns mine were from scotland his were in portsmouth but when I was about four years old i and my mum went to stay with a lady my grandad said was his cousin her name was violet brown, her husband was stationed at Hasler so this would have been1957 I was born in 53 he was in the naval military police and they had an alsation called kigi I fell down the stairs he came to check me over allowed me to place my arms around his neck and took me into the kitchen crying my eyes out and placed me gently on the kitchen floor, not sure but Agnes may have been her mother's name what I would love to trace is the connection, if there is one between the two brown families my great gran was a brown her father was robert brown she was marjory and she had agnes and lily were her daughters and one but she and they are usually named after family members.
this lady my grandad's cousin was violet whether she married a brown or was a brown herself I do not know nor how to find out now that Hasler has been closed and everything moved to portsmouth naval basesince 1968 i dont know who to ask any ideas or help would be appreciated.

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World War One / my grt grandad john laidlaw
« on: Saturday 19 February 22 17:19 GMT (UK)  »
when he was approx, 2 yrs old he was in the 18th hussarhs and was seconded to the imperial calvary of india to defend the lives of the rajhand hiswife  dont know how to name her or even pretend to know how to spell it, funnily enough levisongower was there as well dont know hy but asumr it was a on diplomatic government business. and our family tied up with the controversey over that family never resolved and not likely to be.the gentleman that i used to talk to about genealogy was the genealogist for all the islands and is probably dead some years back
at some time he came home aged now 32 met my great gran marjory got her pregnant married her and their first son was borne called john walker Laidlaw not john brown laidlaw which is a little strange.
anyway, on the first anniversary of their marriage they found their firstborn dead in his cot.
after that john was called away to go into battle again this time it was in the boer war in swaziland?

during his absence his daughter, my grt aunt marjory died of consumption and as depicted in the film the zulus or whatever it was actually called there were hardly any officers left alive most were either dead or dying he left the field of battle and headed home to be with his wife and family in the film Michael Caine was seen talking to the Sargeant major who was slowly dying and made him promise to get more troops to come out and help get the wounded home or at least try to save their lives,(for both campaigns he was awarded the rose and bar for gallantry or bravery; my question is
 which route would you take to get from swaziland back to scotland and his horse could not have survived such a journey would it?. I would love to have a map of the  route if one such thing exists of HIS actual route when he returned by then he was 45 or thereabouts he tried signing up again for the first world war, but they told him that he was too ill to fight they suggested,try home duties but even they said that he was too ill he was sent to victoria hospital in Glasgow where he died on the 3rd april 1923 he had been suffering with sleeping sickness he was entombed and placed in rosemount cemetary ,i only hope that he was actually dead not just suffering a bout of sleeping sickness

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Lanarkshire / Re: Muriel May Smith/Hamilton
« on: Saturday 19 February 22 16:44 GMT (UK)  »
Muriel Muirina Kirkwood Smith married James Hamilton, the son of James Hamilton and Robina Campbell.  Muriel and James Hamilton had they must have had more than three there eldest son was christopher3 children:Ena C. m. McKinnell; Jennifer; James Stanley Hamilton m. Joyce Lilian Jacob, 02 April 1955,Wycliffe Baptist Church, Reading, Berkshire, England.
James and Joyce immigrated to Queensland, Australia in 1967.  They both died 03 Jan. 2006 and are buried in the Drayton and Toowoomba Cemetery, Toowoomba, Qld, Aust.  They had 4 children [male, female, male, male] all born in England. I am married to the eldest.
Janet
JANET HER NAME WAS THE SAME AS MY GRT GRAN JANET MURIEL O'MAY SMITH HER MOTHER WAS AN janetO'MAYMARRIED TO ALEXANDER SMITH I HAVE COUSINS IN LIVERPOOL AND NEWCASTLE FROM HUGH SMITH WHO WAS EITHER ALEXANDERS FATHER OR GRANDFATHER
IT WAS THEIR ELDEST SON CHRISTOPHER WHO SUFFERED A PSYCHOTIC EPISODE AND KILLED BOTH HIS PARENTS THE OTHERS MARRIED AND RAISED CHILDREN OF THEIR OWN BUT I UNDERSTOOD THAT CHRISTOPHER ON HIS ARRIVAL IN AUSTRALIA WAS TAKEN AWAY AND PLACED INTO AN INSTITUTION NEVER TO BE RELEASED; MAYBE YOU COULD CHECKuP  ON THAT ANY NEWSPAPER CUTTINGS YOU COME ACROSS WOULD BE OF USE TO ME THANKYOU

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