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Don't know if this is her but there is an Elizabeth Coulson age 19 on a passenger list 22 July 1913 travelling from Liverpool to Boston on the "Franconia"

You will always get the mother on an illegitimate childís birth certificate.
Itís the father that is missing.

You seem to be after who the mother was so the certificate will tell you.

Kent / Re: Marrowbone Bottom?
« on: Yesterday at 10:54 »
What a fantastic name!  I wonder if they served it int pub  :D

Aha the marriage at last  :D

Elizabeth Sanderson Caulson - father Thomas - mother Mary

22 May 1917

Vancouver Washington

Elizabeth born Detroit Michigan and her second marriage

father born England

mother born Ireland

Death for Elizabeth Coulson Maddren 5 Nov 1923 Shanghai China age 27.  Born 15 April 1896.
Spouse R F Maddren.

US Passport application for Russell names his wife Elizabeth Coulson Maddren.

Says he was in India 1909-1910 but not when he married but I believe it says for his wife born Detroit Michigan. 

Hopefully someone can double check all this for you.

The marriage to Maria is 31 Dec 1935 not 1905 - she was born 1905 so that doesn't tally does it  :-\

Both residing Shanghai China.

If Elizabeth was his wife when he died they must have married after Maria not before.

His WW1 registration card in 1917 says he has a wife so  ???

The tree gives 2 spouses

1905 Maria Pavlovna Roumartchuk

Elizabeth Coulson or Carlson

but no info apart from the name I'm afraid.

We can check for a wedding in England certainly - can't see one but is Sanderson her middle name?

Would the marriage not be in the US?

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