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Cheshire / Re: Lymm 1803 St Mary's Churchyard
« on: Sunday 20 November 22 18:19 GMT (UK)  »
To the
MEMORY of
John Atkins late of this
parish who departed this
life the 4th day of August
1834 aged 63 years Also of
Sarah his Wife who died
March 7th 1808 Aged 28 years
Also Ann their Daughter
who died Jan 20th 1803 Aged
5 years Also Mary their
Daughter who died Jan 20th
1803 Aged 1 year
Also of John Cowsill who died
May 26th 1862 Aged 66 Years
Also Bridget Cowsill Wife
of the above died 17 July 1867 aged 71 years.

This is a transcription of the gravestone in Lymm, St Mary's Churchyard giving details of the children

Thank you to everyone who has replied.  I am aware of the various illnesses, but I was just interested that they died on the same day and was wondering if anyone had read of a particular outbreak of , as I said, a cholera etc  in Lymm at the time.
Thanks again

smallholderitm

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Cheshire / Lymm 1803 St Mary's Churchyard
« on: Sunday 20 November 22 12:53 GMT (UK)  »
I have 2 children buried in St Mary's Lymm on the same  day, namely 20 January 1803.  One was aged 5 years and one aged 1 year.  They were the infant children of John Atkins and his wife Sarah who died 1834 and 1808 respectively.  I am wondering if anyone knows of an outbreak of (?) cholera or something  equally as deadly to little ones?
In the same grave are also John Cowsill and his wife Bridget who died 1862 and 1867.  AS YET I can find no trace of a link between the two families but am still lookig.  Does this ring any bells with anyone.
Any help would be appreciated.
Many thanks

smallholderitm


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Cheshire / Re: Adoption search
« on: Sunday 20 November 22 12:44 GMT (UK)  »
The local paper was the Hoylake & West Kirby News & Advertiser, but sadly did not start until 1914/15.  However if you contact Wirral Archives at archives@wirral.gov.uk.  They may be able to tell you what predates this. Possibly a  Birkenhead paper would have covered this area.

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Wales Resources / Re: Herbert Hughes Born 1848 Montgomery, montgomeryshire
« on: Tuesday 15 February 22 12:28 GMT (UK)  »
Just to say thank you to all of you who have tried to assist with this enquiry, and who steered me onto the correct path.  The baptism in Clun IS the correct one and I have found this Herbert in 1921 and 1939.  My friend is delighted so I thank you all very much for your assistance - especially Osprey for continuing in face of my obstinance.


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Free Photo Restoration & Date Old Photographs / Unknown marriage
« on: Friday 11 February 22 14:05 GMT (UK)  »
This was in my late husband's photos. Probably family in Yorkshire area.  Do you think any of the men are related? I have a photo of the couple taken in ??1930s out for a walk.
Many thanks

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Wales Resources / Re: Herbert Hughes Born 1848 Montgomery, montgomeryshire
« on: Wednesday 26 January 22 15:15 GMT (UK)  »
Many thanks all of you for your replies.  Herbert is the gt grandfather of my friend, for whom I am trying to do this research.  Ernest Thomas is the son of Herbert Hughes as he states on his marriage certificate.  His age seems to vary a great deal, so I have just telephoned my friend to see if she has proof of his date of birth as his age varies from dob 1889 in 1939 register, to being aged 27 on marriage (1888) to being aged 31 in 1921 census ie born1890.  When I have that I can move forward perhaps.  I do feel that the 1871 information is "my" Herbert and I am wondering whether the family were away doing soldierly stuff during the census's.  I would also agree that the 1911 census is the correct one, but the baptism in Walford I do not think is the correct one.  Herbert was baptised Herbert with no other names on 13 February 1848 to Richard and Mary Hughes of Montgomery.  I have checked the 1921 census for Herbert but can find no trace.  I am wondering if he was a vagrant of no fixed abode (perhaps in 1911 census this was the case as well).
I shall report back if/when I can confirm anything else.

Many thanks for taking the time to assist.

Best wishes to all


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Wales Resources / Herbert Hughes Born 1848 Montgomery, montgomeryshire
« on: Tuesday 25 January 22 13:32 GMT (UK)  »
The above named was the son of Richard and Mary Hughes.  In 1971 census he was at St Woollos Barracks in Newtown.  It appears he was in the 23 Fusiliers.  Would that have been the Royal Welch fusiliers?  I cannot find any trace of him in the 1881, 1891, 1901 census and he reappears in London between 1909 and 1912 appearing in various Poor Law institutions and Infirmaries. He had been married to a woman, surname Lewis and they had a son Ernest Thomas Hughes born 1889, but by 1909 he was a widower.  I cannot trace his son Ernest Thomas either in the census but in 1915 Ernest married Alice Evans in Berriew, Montgomeryshire, giving his father as Herbert Hughes, labourer.
How can I find Herbert's Army record and his and family's whereabouts 1871-1909.  Also I cannot find a trace of his marriage.  I only know her surname from the GRO indexes of Ernest's birth.
I would be most grateful for any help.
Many thanks.

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Cheshire / Re: James Robert Handley b 1883 in Neston
« on: Sunday 09 January 22 15:42 GMT (UK)  »
Hello again and many thanks especially to Annette who set me on the correct road.
Robert married Jane but unfortunately there is no father's name on the marriage certificate.  They had 3 children William, John and James.  James' birth was registered in the Dec 1/4 1912 as Matthews.  Jane died 31 October 1913 in Neston of Septicaemia and Pneumonia aged only 28, leaving Robert with 3 young children.  Robert's mother Catherine had married a William Rigby and was living in Ince.  She had had two more illegitimate children by then.
I can only think that Robert packed up his family and went to Ince, as on 12 March 1917 his 4 year old son James died in Ince and his death was reported by Robert.  Robert was by then labouring down the pit.  Somewhile thereafter he went into the army and he was killed on 2 November 1918 in action.  The few details of his army papers give any monies due to him to go to a Margaret Rigby as guardian for his two remaining children.  Margaret was the wife of one of Catherine's illegitmate children who had been brought up as "Rigbys".  Catherine had by then died herself.
So - rather a tragic and convoluted tale, but at least I am happy that at last he has been tracked down.
Very many thanks again
Angela

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Cheshire / Re: James Robert Handley b 1883 in Neston
« on: Friday 17 December 21 12:49 GMT (UK)  »
Just as an add on to all the above - Robert James Matthews married Jane Hancock in Dec 1/4 of 1909 registered in West Derby ref 8b 819.
Angela

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