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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Re: From St Georges Workhouse to Mitcham School
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 11:20 BST (UK)  »
Thank you ShaunJ and Bookbox a great help.  I do know what happened to Sophia and Maria.  In fact I am in the process of getting Maria and her husbands monument repaired after the Christchurch earthquakes damaged it.   Maria is my gr grandmother.
I have no confirmed records of James Jarvis after 1862 although there are many James Jarvis's in workhouses in the area I can't guarantee they are the same person.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / From St Georges Workhouse to Mitcham School
« on: Tuesday 12 October 21 06:49 BST (UK)  »
A family of orphans were admitted to St Georges Workhouse, Mint St on 1 july 1857 after their mother Caroline died in March of the same year.  Their father James died in 1854.  They were Sophia (b 1845) James Daniel (b 1849) and Alice Maria (b 1851)- known as Maria JARVIS.  James was discharged 3rd July to attend the Mitcham School. Sophia and Maria discharged 6th July also to attend the Mitcham School.  How do I obtain any records for the Mitcham School.  If there are records is it possible someone may be able to look please. 
A James Jarvis seems to appear in the the same workhouse several times up until 1862.  How do I know for sure that this is my James Jarvis?
I would appreciate any help offered.

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Hertfordshire / Re: Two birth registrations for what appears to be same child
« on: Friday 15 November 19 20:34 GMT (UK)  »
Thank you for those suggestions arthurk.  I will look to see if any did leave a will, although am not convinced I have the correct death for William.  At this very moment I am checking his details.

Have read John Cockles Will and there is nothing relating to Charles Pearson.

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Hertfordshire / Re: Two birth registrations for what appears to be same child
« on: Friday 15 November 19 17:51 GMT (UK)  »
Altho thinking about another option:

On the 1861 census Elizabeth was living at home with mother and stated she was an engineers wife, she was 29 years of age at this time.  At the earliest birth registration of 1864 Elizabeth was 32.

Elizabeth and William had no other children.  Maybe Elizabeth couldn't have children so John and Annie gave Elizabeth their second born.   Why would Elizabeth register the birth 6 months after the birth date which was still prior to her marriage in 1870?  William died in 1874.

I thought avm228 had the most plausible explanation and then I couldn't forget about the other option.


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Hertfordshire / Re: Two birth registrations for what appears to be same child
« on: Friday 15 November 19 17:31 GMT (UK)  »
Apologies for the silence but needed sleep (NZ time).

The informant on the first birth registration Jan 1865 was Annie herself.

Charles William Pearson died 1929 - so not alive for 1939 register.

John and Annie had a space of 5 years between child born 1862 and 1867 and the next six births were spaced 2-3 years apart. 

I think avm228 that your assumption sounds the most likely.





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Hertfordshire / Re: Two birth registrations for what appears to be same child
« on: Friday 15 November 19 11:04 GMT (UK)  »
Address of birth and where the informant MA Rhodes was present at the birth.

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Hertfordshire / Re: Two birth registrations for what appears to be same child
« on: Friday 15 November 19 10:48 GMT (UK)  »
Correct. I Have both PDFs from GRO.

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Hertfordshire / Re: St Mary the Great burial - Charles Drake
« on: Friday 15 November 19 10:19 GMT (UK)  »
Baptised St Mary The Virgin, Great Dunmow  12 March 1809 and also stated Great Dunmow on 1851 Census.  No later records as she died July 1851.

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Hertfordshire / Two birth registrations for what appears to be same child
« on: Friday 15 November 19 09:47 GMT (UK)  »
I have two birth registrations that have confused me and would like another opinion please.

Birth Reg 1/  District Cheshunt, Edmonton    3A/188
13 Dec 1864    Charles William Pearson Cockle to John and Annie (formerly Barker) Cockle
Born at Hatton Road.              Registered 16 Jan 1865.

Birth Reg 2/  District All Souls,  Marylebone    1A/415
25 Mar 1865    Charles William Pearson Cockle to Elizabeth Cockle.
MA Rhodes present at the birth at 45 Newmans St, Marylebone.   Reg 23 Sept 1865  (6mths after birth)

Then Elizabeth Cockle married a William Charles Pearson at St James Westminster 19 Jan 1870. 

1871 Census William and Elizabeth and 6 year old Charles W live on the London Rd Sussex.

Charles William Pearson never appears again with John and Annie Cockle.

John Cockle and Elizabeth Cockle are siblings.

Did Annie give birth and then Elizabeth adopt the baby?  If so how did MA Rhodes witness the birth at 45 Newmans St?  Or maybe another explanation lurks around the corner....

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