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Australia / Re: Death in Granville NSW
« on: Monday 27 December 10 12:25 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

Is this Joseph Kendall the man from Shropshire who was transported to VDL on the MOFFATT in 1842 aged c19?

Julie in Hobart

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hi Leandra

It looks like only William Hill went to NZ from Scotland and not sure when !? but he apparently  died c.1868 in NZ and his wife Helen Hill remarried in Scotland.

I know this isn't much. A House Factor is a real estate agent.

bye again
Julie

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Hi and thanks very much to Althea and Leandra

Yes the '10 years earlier' than 1878 is a bit cryptic - does that indicate  strictly 1868 ?? [I suspect not] 

 also yes to the thought perhaps he didn't die but remarried, or chose to let those in Scotland think he had died etc.

It is quite a  mystery at present.

I will seek his widow Helen Hill [nee MacFadyen's] death cert. 

These are her birth details:
MACFADEAN, HELEN YOUNG (O.P.R. Births 692/002 0190 0013 LEITH SOUTH) 256Kb

No 73
MacFadean
David  Macfadean, marble cutter, Leith, and Margaret Dickson, his spouse, have recorded, for Baptism a lawful daughter born 20th Jannary and baptized 22 February 1830 and named Helen Young.

Here are details form the 1878 record which mentions William Hill as in / died in NZ:

NO C220Z8
Hour and date of application: 11.20am 4th February 1878
Name of Applicant: John McGough
.........
Names and ages of dependents: wife Helen Hill aged 28 year born in Drygate, housewife, a protestant, assists her husband............
..............
Wife’s parents, William Hill, was a House Factor died in New Zealand 10 years ago and Helen McFadyen, housewife, married to Archibald McKellar a Porter in a Tea Warehouse, resides in Clyde Terrace, Bridgeton.

so, Perhaps William didn't die, but was termed 'dead' [ in NZ],  so his wife could remarry Archibald McKellar ?

Julie

 


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hello

I am trying to locate a ggg grandfather William Hill, whose wife was Helen Hill and daughter Helen Hutton Hill married a Great Great Grandfather  John Mc Gough in Glasgow in 1875.

WILLIAM HILL    m   HELEN MCFADYEH/N 
Their daughter HELEN/ELLEN HUTTON HILL born 1848 - d. 17 May 1920

In an 1878 application in Glasgow daughter Helen  Mc Gough [ nee Hill]  said her father had died in New Zealand ten years ago.

Does anyone have any ideas on how to locate William Hill in NZ with this scant information?

Many thanks
Julie [Tasmania]


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Lanarkshire / Re: ?Death of Philip Mortimer 1841-1851? [ex Roscommon to Glasgow 1833]
« on: Tuesday 21 September 10 13:42 BST (UK)  »
Many thanks,
&
Good thinking  and thanks very much.

 Philip Mortimer's  daughter Ann McGeough's [nee Mortimer] husband, Francis McGeough from Magheross or nearby in Monaghan, was in  Glasgow Poor House's through parts of 1877-1881 when he died in one, last lived Candleriggs st.
Though this is likely some 30 years after Philip Mortimer died c1841-1851.
 Ann died in 1856 aged 30, at Bridgegate st. One son, John McG[e]ough b1845-d.1885.
 
The Mortimers in 1841 census page have unclear address - not on page, at top is listed St Marys Tron [I think]  which looks to be much further north than down in Bridgegate.

In 1851 census the Mortimers, living with McGeoughs are at 71 Bridgegate st, Bridget Mortimer [Philip's wife who outlives him] is listed as HEAD aged 58. Bridget died in 1855.

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Lanarkshire / ?Death of Philip Mortimer 1841-1851? [ex Roscommon to Glasgow 1833]
« on: Tuesday 21 September 10 12:51 BST (UK)  »
hi
I am gaining ground on my Mortimer family arrived into Glasgow from Roscommon in 1833.
They are in 1841 census, and most in 1851 census then living with McGeoughs, or rather McGeough's with them.

I have death of mother Bridget Mortimer in 1855 [nee Cairns. M.N. Sheridan] , death of daughter Ann [McGeough] in 1856, and various records of Ann's brothers John and Philip Mortimer.

 I am missing the death of father Philip Mortimer who was in the 1841 census, but not in 1851 census  - so I think he had died by 1851.

They are Catholic and  buried in Dabelth.

I have tried various soundex/ fuzzy, etc variants in Scotlands People for Philip Mortimer.
But not found his death yet.

In 1841 census he is aged 55 - so born in  c.1786. 
and wife Bridget is 40, so born in c.1800 [though her death cert, in 1855 states she is aged 68 so born in 1797...].

Two infants named Philip Mortimer died in 1868.

thanks for any help with this
Julie

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Thanks very much for checking

no worries

I can go into Mitchell Library with my growing folder and look up obits too in 2 weeks once in Glasgow for a few days, in other papers etc, perhaps they will have info or leads about him and  about Frederick st printers too.

Julie

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Thanks again

no haven't thought of that:

8 Aug 1957

Do you know where/how to check for those?
 

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Thanks Sancti

That is him.
Many thanks, he passed away much earlier than I thought.
Lived then in Carmyle.

Also I found that from Scotland's people that: A 1960 death should be on [Scotland's People] late  December 2010/early January 2011.

Also I now know the Catholic paper was printed in North Frederick st, though don't yet know the name of it,  I found these two miniature mentions:

" Scottish Catholic Company, Limited, 32, North Frederick Street,. Glasgow. Inside it calls itself The Catholic Parish Magazine, for other parishes can, if they choose, make it their ... The news of the world, as far as it affects Catholic ... " [this excerpt only online]
http://www.scottishprintarchive.org/info.php?id=32&page=7

from:
•  The Irish Monthly
Vol. 37, No. 435 (Sep., 1909), pp. 525-532
(review consists of 8 pages)
•  Published by: Irish Jesuit Province
•  Stable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/20502678

and GREAT photos including of Frederick st on this site:

"...North Frederick St, west side north of George Sq. The building next to the George seems to have been the Glasgow office of the Irish Weekly and Ulster Examiner, a Belfast newspaper which closed in 1982.  September 1973 ..."

http://urbanglasgow.co.uk/archive/glasgow-in-the-1970s-the-city__o_t__t_1453.html

Also:
George Square and North Frederick St.  September 1973

So I am getting closer - though not yet sure if the paper was perhaps "the Catholic Parish Magazine" or "the Glasgow office of the Irish Weekly and Ulster Examiner" or office/printer for both etc.



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