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Cavan / Re: George Woods & Anne Gilliland, Mullantra, Kingscourt
« on: Thursday 28 July 22 15:00 BST (UK)  »
To keep the records here up to date, Silebod has identified a further son of Charles Woods of Pottle:

- William Woods, died 19 May 1884 at Ballinclieve, Moynalty, co Meath, aged 41 years, registered by Hugh McBirney (nephew)

Two links:

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06327/4814463.pdf

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1884/06327/4814463a.pdf

If the age is correct, William Woods will have been born posthumously, as Charles Woods' will was registered in June 1842 (as noted above).

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Cavan / Re: George Woods & Anne Gilliland, Mullantra, Kingscourt
« on: Monday 07 June 21 14:14 BST (UK)  »
I do not think that the original will can be accessed.  Lots of papers appear to have been lost during a fire at the Public Records Office in 1922.

As for documents we do have ....

In the 1901 census, SileBod has identified two spinster sisters of George Woods & Robert Woods.  The sisters are living with their nephew, Hugh McBirney at Ballintlieve, Moynalty, co Meath.  Margaret Woods is recorded as 60 years old, and Anne Woods as 57 years old.

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai001120326/

Margaret Woods died on 1 September 1909 at Ballintlieve.  Her death was registered by Hugh McBirney, and she is recorded as being 84 year old.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1909/05445/4523536.pdf

Anne Woods died on 15 April 1910 at Ballintlieve.  Her death was registered by Hugh McBirney, and she is recorded as being 75 years old.
(As noted earlier, Anne Woods was baptised on 27 March 1836; so it’s the age on the census which is wrong.)

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1910/05429/4517902.pdf

On 12 June 1914, Hugh McBirney registered the will of Margaret Woods, late of Ballincleva, Moynality, who died on 2 September 1909 leaving an estate of £143 (equivalent to about £16,000 today).

http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014918/005014918_00762.pdf

As for the two married sisters of George Woods & Robert Woods, Mary McBirney and Jane Brownlee are living together in the 1901 census at Kingscourt, co Cavan.  Mary McBirney is recorded as 60 years old, and Jane Brownee as 58 years old.

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/reels/nai000440891/

Mary McBirney died on 28 October 1903, found dead in her house at Kingscourt.  Her death was registered by her son, Hugh McBirney.  Mary McBirney is recorded as being 67 years old.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1903/05646/4589237.pdf

Jane Brownlee died on 19 May 1905 at the Workhouse, Bailieborough, co Cavan.  Her death was registered by the Occupier of the Workhouse.  Jane Brownlee is recorded as being 68 years old.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1905/05594/4572335.pdf

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Cavan / Re: George Woods & Anne Gilliland, Mullantra, Kingscourt
« on: Sunday 06 June 21 21:07 BST (UK)  »
To keep this record up-to-date with information, I have just discovered Charles Woods (father of George Woods, the original subject of this thread) listed in the Ireland Diocesan & Prerogative Wills & Administration Index:

- Woods, June 1842, Charles, Pottel, Co Cavan, Farmer.

With George Woods baptised on 29 May 1842, his father has died around the same time as his son's birth.

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Midlothian / Re: St.Anns school Edinburgh 1950s
« on: Saturday 05 June 21 19:42 BST (UK)  »
I think that you are referring to the St Ann's school which was run by the Ursulines of Jesus.  The Ursulines' main school in Edinburgh was St Margaret's, which was based on the corner of Whitehouse Loan and Strathearn Road.  In 1986, St Margaret's school and convent closed.  The complex is now known as Gillis Centre.  The Wikipedia entry can be found at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gillis_Centre

As for St Ann's, the Ursulines had a house built for this purpose in the 1880s at the far end of Strathearn Road.  This was a day-school and originally known as St Ann's Seminary.  I do not know when St Ann's closed.  But I believe that St Ann's is the building which later partly became a branch of The Royal Bank of Scotland at 20 Strathearn Road.

The Ursulines had other schools around Edinburgh, including Milton House, which has since become Royal Mile Primary School.

Hope that helps.

David





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Cavan / Re: George Woods & Anne Gilliland, Mullantra, Kingscourt
« on: Saturday 05 June 21 17:51 BST (UK)  »
SileBod

I am delighted that you have posted here.  From what you write, we are fourth cousins through shared great-great-great-grandparents in Charles & Elizabeth Woods from Pottle.

To be honest, I haven't looked over my family-tree stuff for a while.  And I have to read over my own posts here to remind myself what I have recorded.  In addition to this thread, I have posted lists of birth, marriage & death certificates for individuals named Woods from Bailieborough, which I ordered as part of my research.  Perhaps some of the certificates which I could not link to our family might be relevant for you.  Those certificates are contained across 3 posts in the Forum section:

Family History & Artefacts / Unwanted Certificates & Artefacts / Unwanted Birth, Marriage, Death Certificates T to Z.

I posted the lists of birth and death certificates on 2 February 2014, and the list of marriage certificates on 8 June 2014.

Over the next day or two, I will study the information which you have provided.  And I will contact you by Personal Message.

Regards

David

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Cavan / Re: George Woods & Anne Gilliland, Mullantra, Kingscourt
« on: Sunday 18 March 18 20:18 GMT (UK)  »
Bob

I am replying to the message which you left yesterday addressed to Ann Morris.

As you will have seen above, I am the great-grandson of Joseph Woods, who was the brother of your grandfather Robert Woods.  I visited your mother a couple of times.  I know that your mother was very interested in our family origins, and I wish that all this information had been available earlier to share with her.

I have posted on this thread most of what I have researched back on the Woods line.  In addition, I have been in contact with some Woods cousins who live in Chicago.  Piecing their information together with my own, I believe that I may have got back another couple of generations beyond Charles Woods to my 4x and 5x Woods great-grandfathers.  A couple of years ago, I went to Dundalk in county Louth to search through the records there in the hope of proving this link, but as yet I do not have definitive evidence.

For the Gillilands, you may be interested in the thread titled "Gilliland Conly Ballybay", which is on the Monaghan forum here (quite far down the list at present, as the last post was in November 2016).  In that thread, you will find most of what I have researched on our Gilliland ancestors and cousins.

Also on the Monaghan forum, you might be interested in the thread titled "Major David Nelson VC" (last post was in April 2016).  From the information so far, I have proved that we are related to families which are related to Major Nelson.  But I am certain that our ancestor Jane Nelson (wife of Joseph Gilliland) will have been from the same family as the Major.  From what I have found, the families of Major Nelson and the other 4 soldiers listed on the war memorial at Cahans Presbyterian Church were all connected to each other and our family too.  I went to the Imperial War Museum in London to see Major Nelson's Victoria Cross, as well as his gun from the battle of Nery.  The centenary of the Major's death is coming up next month.  You will find plenty about him on the internet.

Anyway, I hope this is of some interest to you.  I am happy to share everything that I have found.

Regards

David

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East Lothian (Haddingtonshire) / Re: Children of James Duncan & Agnes Crookston
« on: Saturday 17 March 18 17:44 GMT (UK)  »
I realise that you are asking about the Duncan side.  But I wanted to make sure that you are aware of the Crookston information.  If not, you may be interested in the thread titled "Joan (Jackie) Crookston of the Tranent Massacre" (last updated on 18 February 2013).  In particular, my post of 14 March 2010 lists Agnes Crookston and her husband James Duncan.

David

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Cumberland / Re: Marriage for Thomas Stewart
« on: Tuesday 23 May 17 14:49 BST (UK)  »
Here are the 1851 census for Thomas Stewart and his parents, and the 1841 census for the parents.

1841 – Workington
Hugh Stewart, aged 30 years Stone mason, born in parish
Martha Stewart, aged 35 years, born in parish
Grace Stewart, aged 10 years, born in parish
William Stewart, aged 5 years, born in parish
Margaret Stewart, aged 3 years, born in parish
James Stewart, aged 2 years, born in parish
Joan Coulthard, aged 80 years, Widow, born in parish

1851 – 63 Udale Street, Workington
Hugh Stewart, Head, Married, aged 44 years, Stone Mason, born Workington
Margaret Stewart, Daughter, aged 14 years, born Workington
James Stewart, Son, aged 12 years, born Workington
John Stewart, Son, aged 10 years, born Workington
Thomas Stewart, Son, aged 8 years, born Workington
Ruth Stewart, Daughter, aged 5 years, born Workington

1851 – English Street, Carlisle
Martha Stewart, Prisoner, aged 50 years, Labourer’s wife, born Workington

I am connected to this family through Thomas Stewart’s brother James Stewart.  James Stewart married Margaret Irving on 30 January 1860 at Workington.

I have researched this family a bit.  And there are a fair few enquiries with information on other genealogy websites.  Based on those websites (ie not my own research and none of this has been checked by me):

-   Hugh Stewart and Martha Coulthard were married on 29 March 1830 at St John’s Church, Workington.
-   Hugh Stewart was born in 1804 in Workington, the son of James Stewart who married Margaret Chambers at St Michael’s Workington in 1799.
-   James Stewart was born 1771 in Whitehaven, married Margaret Chalmers in Workington in 1799, and died in 1838.
-   This James Stewart may have been the son of James Stewart (mariner) who married Elizabeth Borrowdale at St Nicholas’s Church, Whitehaven in October 1765, with that James Stewart drowning at sea off Irton, Cumberland in 1791 (NB – a later post by the same informant indicates that the identity of “our” James Stewart with the James Stewart who drowned may be a mistake).
-   Margaret Chambers was the widow of a Hugh Park, and the daughter of John Chambers (mariner) and Eleanor Thrash.
-   In 1851, Martha Stewart (nee Coulthard) was in Carlisle prison for larceny.
-   Martha Coulthard was the daughter of William Coulthard (died 13 April 1784 at Workington) and Joyce Iredale (baptised 22 August 1762 and died 1850 when residing at Udale Street, Workington).
-   William Coulthard was a mariner and kept a couple of pubs: Hope & Anchor, Quay, and Under the Brow.
-   Joyce Iredale was the daughter of John Iredale (baptised 30 July 1728) who married Grace Thompson on 12 October 1752.
-   This John Iredale was the son of John Iredale who married Joyce Bacon or Harris (widow of a John Bacon) on 18 June 1724.

I hope that is some help.  Google searches on the names of the people listed above would lead you to the posts on the other websites.

Regards

David

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Monaghan / Re: Gilliland Conly Ballybay
« on: Saturday 05 November 16 19:23 GMT (UK)  »
In my above post dated 6 March 2016, I have noted the census returns which list Ernest Gilliland, who was the son of George Gilliland and Jane Turbitt.  In the 1911 census, Ernest Gilliland was 28 years old and described as "Sgt Farrier NIH".  Also, I have noted that Ernest Gilliland appears in a photograph in the book "At the Ford of the Birches, The History of Ballybay, its People & Vicinity" by James H Murnane & Paedar Murnane.

I have just come across a book named "The North Irish Horse in the Great War" by Phillip Tardif, which was published last year.  When recounting the Battle of Le Cateau in August 1914, the author quotes from a Private William Morton of Lurgan:

"When we came in contact with a patrol of the enemy we dismounted and, taking up position, opened a rapid fire.  We succeeded in bringing down about fifty of them, and the remainder, who galloped round a wood, were finished by some infantry on our left.  Immediately then, the German big guns and Maxims began to play on us, and again we had to retire through a village which was in flames."

Immediately after this quotation, the author states:

"It has been claimed that the first North Irish Horseman to account for an enemy fighter was Farrier Sergeant Ernest Gilliland, an event that most likely occurred during this action.  Gilliland, a 31-year old from Drumar, County Monaghan, was a veteran of the regiment, having enlisted in March 1909."

Always good to add some real-life information to the names on our family-tree.  And this is a really powerful account from the early days of the First World War.

David

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