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Durham / Re: Joseph Burnside, Cockerton
« on: Monday 13 November 23 20:48 GMT (UK)  »
Some final notes from me on the Joseph Burnside who prompted this post…. Firstly the 1841 Mainsforth Census is correct for him, it seems Uncle Robert Burnside is on the census twice which I have seen elsewhere, Joseph is working for John Hall whose mother was Mary Burnside the sister of Uncle Robert, Mary had married another John Hall. Mary Burnside’s  son John Hall did very well, he was the servant of Robert Surtees the historian from Mainsforth Hall and rose to the rank of butler, Surtees loved him and mentions him in his will and gave him a farm to run when he left service, John married the Surtees’ housemaid and a poem exists that Surtees wrote to them on their wedding day. John didn’t like the farm he was given- East Chilton Farm in Kirk Merrington parish- it was right next to a railway track and still is- and so he came to farm lands in Mainsforth for Robert Surtees’ widow. I have a tithe map for Mainsforth and John Hall is listed as farming most of it, no wonder he called in the Burnside clan. Joseph Burnside is on the 1841 census with John Hall, Joseph’s mother’s cousin.

Coming back to Joseph Burnside, I found a newspaper article from 1851 for a Hannah Rigg being born, the daughter of Hannah Rigg of Staindrop, single woman fathered by “Joseph Burnside of Cockerton”. Hannah is the same age as the Joseph of this post who married a different lady this same year. The baptism for little Hannah is in the Cockfield records. It would seem Joseph had a child before his marriage. Hannah Rigg the elder married Jonathan Taylor a few years later. Staindrop is just slightly north of Alwent toll bar on Staindrop Road which that same year was ran by Mary Burnside, this Mary’s father was Joseph Burnside the brother of Lavinia, Robert, Mary et al. The Alwent toll cottage where Mary lived is still on the road. It may explain why Joseph was in the area, this Mary Burnside was Joseph’s mother’s cousin.

We established Joseph was the son of Hannah Burnside the daughter of Lavinia Burnside before Lavinia married George Cowley. Lavinia also had another llegitimate child, a son called Robert- she is the Violetta that stumped us way back on this thread, whether she went by this name as well or if it is a misreading of Vianer which she also went by is unknown, her death cert however gives her name as ‘Violet Cowley’ which might show she used them both just to be fickle. I have located Lavinia and George’s  house in Walworth Gate from tithe maps, it is still there. Anyway, this Robert Burnside married Mary Goldsborough, Robert was a coal miner but died young, they had a son born in Walworth where Lavinia was living called William. This William Burnside was later arrested for housebreaking and attempting to shoot a police officer, he was transported to Australia. I found two photos of him in Australian convict records. This William Burnside is Joseph’s cousin and not his mother’s cousin for once! Hope this helps someone.

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Durham Lookup Requests / Re: Burial St Cuthberts Billingham
« on: Wednesday 12 July 23 22:13 BST (UK)  »
I was told this week to write to the Church which I have done, if I get anywhere i will let you know.

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Worcestershire / Re: Dudley Records
« on: Friday 02 June 23 21:09 BST (UK)  »
Thanks, I love Freereg- such an amazing resource. Just looking to plug the gaps they don't have, Worcestershire seems woefully underrepresented compared to other districts on sites like Findmypast. All the best for the weekend.

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Worcestershire / Dudley Records
« on: Friday 02 June 23 20:06 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

Does anyone know if any of the family history websites like Genealogist, Ancestry etc have accessible online records for Dudley and Netherton particularly those 1850s+? I have had a look on various websites and the resources tab on here and it doesn't seem like they are accessible anywhere?

Have a good night,

Dan

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Thank you, this definitely identifies the person in the photograph, thank you!

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Would anyone more intelligent than me be able to narrow down the ages of the sitters? The info you have kindly provided has narrowed both sitters down to two individuals, any  help would be much appreciated.

Thank you so much for the help, all the best for the bank holiday weekend,

Dan

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This is early 70's. Hairstyle is also the same.

Also the ear ring present which I thought was unusual in mine. Thanks everyone, this really helps.

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Thanks for the replies, I haven’t the backs, these are photos of the originals taken years ago, we are just trying to narrow down who in the family they might be, suggestions really help so thank you!

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Hello,

I am trying to help a family member identify the people in these two images, both are of the Kelly family of South Shields in the 1800s, I am hoping perhaps that someone might perhaps narrow down the dates for us so we can identify the sitters? Apologies for the quality, unfortunately he does not have access to the original pictures just these photographs of them. Hoping someone might be able to help us.

Many thanks for reading, all the best for the week,

Dan


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