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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Wednesday 03 April 19 06:02 BST (UK)  »
Wow, looks like some great reading there Henry, that is very much appreciated.
I'm sure others will have an interest, thanks for posting  :D

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Tuesday 02 April 19 15:51 BST (UK)  »
Hi Henry

We're not sure how further we can go, as other Family members hired genealogists, & came back with what we already know.

I may contact the Salvation Army in Lancaster, and see how far back their records go.

I would be very interested to see any details on the internment camp, that would be great

Best Regards

John

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 15:10 GMT (UK)  »
I'll see if there's anymore info for you Henry.

I don't think Christian would have gone back to Germany after the war, as he had resided in the UK since 1892, & probably thought of the UK as his home.

Christian married in 1898 to Mary Dixon. Mary was English & from Bewcastle.
The 7 children were English born also, which makes Christians 4 year internment, at the age of 42, seem very harsh in todays climate.

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 14:07 GMT (UK)  »
A photo of the Family after the War, going by their ages, probably taken in Carlisle

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 13:57 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Henry Holborn on Monday 18 March 19 13:53 GMT (UK)
Here is  a photo of a newspaper report from I think November 1914 in the Lancaster Guardian. At the very end it states 4 aliens from the district were interned. Christian could have been one of them.

Best wishes,
Henry

I have not seen that before Henry, thanks for posting, very interesting reading

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 13:54 GMT (UK)  »
Quote from: Henry Holborn on Monday 18 March 19 13:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Again,

Just another quick note. It is interesting that Chritian was interned in 1914 then released. It does not say where he was initially interned, but I have an assumption it might have been Lancaster. This is because Newspaper reports suggest 4 people from the district were interned in 1914 there, which could have included him. Furthermore, the date of his release corresponds with the closing of the Lancaster prison, which makes sense why he was then re-inturned in Handforth Cheshire in July 1915. By that time enforcement and internment of aliens had grown in scale as a reaction to the sinking of the Lusitania and the change in government. Hope this is helpful. If you have anymore info about his release at the end of the war I would be fascinated to know.

Kind regards,

Henry

Yes I had noted that Christian had been released and then reinterned, when I first started researching, & could not understand why. Your information about the closing of Lancaster prison, may be the answer

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 13:51 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Henry

You may use the above for your project, no problem.
Unfortunately, I do not have much information from that time period in Lancaster, as it wasn't really spoken about, and never passed down through the Wall Family.
I did contact the Co-Op in Lancaster where Christian was employed as a Butcher, but they understandably, could not provide any information or records, of Christians employment there.
I would believe that Mary joined the Salvationists in Lancaster, but it's something I never chased up.
I'm not sure when they returned to Carlisle from Lancaster after Christians release from internment, maybe there was not a job opening left for him at the Co-Op on his release?
I'll check my records, and see if I have any more info for you

Johnbhoy

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 13:14 GMT (UK)  »
Drop me a line if you require any further info Henry

Best Regards

Johnbhoy

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Europe / Re: German Pork Butchers in Britain - 2
« on: Monday 18 March 19 13:07 GMT (UK)  »
During Christians internment, his wife, Mary Dixon, survived by receiving aid from the Salvation Army. They later became Salvationists.

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