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Apologies for taking so long in getting back to you, I got side tracked with the other side of my family! In that case I found out that my family was from Co.Donegal! Thank you for the information. I'm a bit stuck with the Harding side of the family but I'll persist and see if there's any joy from the Cork area. Thanks again!
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Records are few and far between that far back in Ireland but I would be quite happy if this was me with possibly identifying a baptism in County Cork, Ireland you may not be able to find out more but it's always nice to know where in Ireland an ancestral line came from.


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Looking for William Harding's baptism in Ireland c1820 is tricky given that only some Irish records are available that far back however there is a baptism in Passage West, County Cork for a William Harding son of James Harding and Ann Melliford on 9th July 1820 that could be him:-

https://registers.nli.ie/pages/vtls000634966_132

The marriage at St Peter's CE Liverpool told us that William's father was called James Harding:-

Marriage: 9 Feb 1852 St Peter, Liverpool, Lancs.
William Harding - (X), Full, Labourer, Bachelor, Athol St
Mary Grimes - (X), Full, Spinster, Hornby St
Groom's Father: James Harding, Labourer
Bride's Father: Robert Grimes, Labourer
Witness: Richard Rice, (X); Alice Rice, (X)
Married by Banns by: J. F. Amos M. A. Curate

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QS7-L9DF-K6YG?i=621&cat=122430



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Photos on iMuseum:-

Photo of WE Rae

https://imuseum.im/search/agent_record/view?id=mnh-agent-1175821&type=agent&tab=all&from=&page=&term=William+Edward+Rae&size=20&sort=&filter=&view=&images=&ttmgp=0&rfname=&rlname=&machine=&race=&raceyear=&linked=0&pos=2

Photo of his brother CT Rae

https://imuseum.im/search/agent_record/view?id=mnh-agent-1175822&type=agent&tab=all&from=&page=&term=William+Edward+Rae&size=20&sort=&filter=&view=&images=&ttmgp=0&rfname=&rlname=&machine=&race=&raceyear=&linked=0&pos=-12



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I don't know if you have these or not but the free to access newspapers part of the iMuseum site have these articles:-

RAE—September 2nd, at the Southern Hospital, Liverpool, William Edward Rae, eldest dearly-beloved son of William Rae, "Sea Mount," Port St. Mary, in his 39th year; and whose remains will be removed from "Sea Mount" for interment in Rushen Churchyard, on Sunday (to-morrow). September 5th, at 2 o'clock p.m. — (Deeply regretted.)

- Isle of Man Examiner, Saturday, September 04, 1920


FUNERAL OF THE LATE MR. WILLIAM E. RAE. The remains of the late Mr Wm. E. Rae. eldest son of Mr Wm. Rae, of Sea Mount, Port St Mary, who passed away at the Southern Hospital, Liverpool, on the previous Thursday, from an illness accelerated as the result of wounds in the head received in France in June, 1916, were conveyed to the Island on Saturday. The interment took place at Rushen Churchyard on Sunday afternoon. There was present a very large attendance of sympathisers, testifying to the great respect held for the deceased. At the door the hymn, "Jesu, Lover of my soul," was sung with feeling", and en route to the Parish Churchyard the hymn, "O God our help in ages past," and a portion of the 90th Psalm were sung. The service in the Church and at the graveside was conducted by the Rev Canon Leece, R.D. (vicar). The choir were present, and the 39th Psalm was chanted, and the hymn, "Peace, perfect peace," was sung. Mr Arthur Cregeen presided at the organ, and played Spohr's "Blessed are the departed" and Beethoven's "Funeral March." The chief mourners were: — Mr Wm. Rae (father), Mr Cunningham T. Rae (brother), Mr Stephen Prideaux (brother-in-law), Master S. Prideaux (nephew), Mrs G. Richards (aunt), and Miss Cannell, Colby (aunt). Messrs Edwin Bridson (Strand Hall), Wm. H. Cubbon (Castletown), P.J. Prideaux (Port Erin) and J.C. Dickson (Castletown) were the bearers. A number of beautiful floral tributes were sent, as follows:—Father, auntie and sisters; Mr and Mrs Stephen Prideaux; Mr and Mrs C.T. Rae and family: Mrs Proctor (aunt) and son and Miss Rae (aunt), Portobello; Lieut.-Col. Blair, Liverpool: Messrs R.A. Scott Macfie and J.S. Rattray (two of deceased's officer comrades in the Liverpool Scottish); D.D.S.S.A.: Mr, Mrs and Miss Briscoe ("In loving remembrance of one of our brave ones"); Misses Lawrence and Whittingham; and nephew and nieces. The tribute from the deceased's Colonel took the form of a Cross of St Andrew, with the Tartan Ribbon of Kilt worn by the Liverpool Scottish, and bore the following inscription:—"In affectionate remembrance of my old "E" Company comrade of the Liverpool Scottish, and in humble tribute to the man, W.E. Rae. From Lieut.-Col. G. Blair, Fraser street, Liverpool."

-Isle of Man Examiner, Saturday, September 11, 1920




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I was able to find the name of my uncle's father from the affiliation register these events were from 1933/34. A visit to the archives and the use of my phone's camera got me the relevant images. The father denied he was the father and the mother 'went to town to state her case'. One ancestor was born in a workhouse to a single mother who married a couple of years later. The husband sometimes disappears from the household in census records, he was a slater and probably worked away a lot. I get the impression he was the father but wasn't much of a family man. Maybe he was a heavy drinker who knows. The illegitmate daughter was the informant on his death certificate and is recorded as his daughter so I think he was her father. These dodgy fathers often come across as dodgy, going back to that 1933 birth, The father was already married, later seperated from his wife and children and started another family.

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