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Wasn't sure whether this should go in the Cheshire section or Kent. All will become clear! Does anyone have specific knowlege of the David Lewis centre? Specifically -

James Edward KEMP was born, in 1888, in one of the small villages in the Ramsgate/Deal area. In 1891 he and the family are in the vilage of Preston (Kent) and his father is an AgLab. As yet, I've been unable to trace them on the 1901 but in 1911 he turns up as a patient of the David Lewis Epileptic Colony in Cheshire and is said to be a "Pubic House Barman".

In 1921, he is boarding in Great Warford - just down the road - with George Henry Jennings and his half sister (and my Half Great Aunt) and James Edward's future wife Edith Mary Binnersley (Isn't life complicated!) He died in 1930, aged 42.

The question, for now, is did he move from Kent to Cheshire despite or, specifically because of his epilepsy? On the one hand, I don't see that he had any connection with Cheshire but on the other, would the treatment of epileptics at this time be confined to such an establishment as the David Lewis Centre? I'm aware that the David Lewis centre still exists and about the time we're looking at, it was mamaged by the Manchester Corporation.

Thanks in advance.

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The Common Room / 1939 Clarification Please
« on: Tuesday 23 January 24 10:11 GMT (UK)  »
This is s bit of a mess and I would appreciate an opinion.

In 1939, Jean Clarke; aged 14 and born in Rotherham, was living with her aunt Joyce Vernon (nee. Clarke), her husband Albert and two/possibly three children at Garden Head, Whitehough (near Chinley, Derbyshire). Jean's entry is below. The family is on a different page with, presumably Jean, redacted anda reference to the entry having been "re-entered on page 21". I said it was a bit of a mess and the address is wrong - Garden House rather than Garden Head!

As one might expect; I assume she married, the name Clark is crossed out and replaced by the names Parry, Stenton and Stenton but each of these is also crossed out. What I assume happened is that the original entry became unreadable ant the whole lot was reentered on "page 21". The writing is different and the revised entry is mostly with the same pen.

What I'm trying to establish is (i) in what order she might have married Parry, Stenton and Stenton - if indeed she married two Stentons, (ii) whether a marriage actually needed to take place in order for a name change to be entered in the 1939 and (iii) when and who were the three men involved but that might be a step too far.

The only other information I have is that there was probably a daughter born in 1945 in the Rotherham area to Stenton and another daughter born 1950, probably in ipswich, to Parry but I can't be 100% sure about either of them.

Help!



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Cheshire / St Wilfrid, Mobberley - grave yard?
« on: Tuesday 26 September 23 17:49 BST (UK)  »
Any ideas as to where I might have sight of a plan of the above with grave numbers?

I seem to be collecting grave numbers but have no way of relating them on the ground.

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The Common Room / 1939 Woes - Arthur Tattersall; or is it Arthur Kingsley?
« on: Friday 21 July 23 13:19 BST (UK)  »
In 1939, Eva TATTERSALL (Nee. Bowers - widow of Daniel Fred PENNEY) is living at 410 Abbey Hey Lane, Gorton, Manchester - The Prince of Wales Pub - with her husband Arthur, who she married in 1938, her mother Mary H BOWERS and her son John Bowers Penney - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/26971402:61596?tid=&pid=&queryId=c6b51e37e279fb3b6c8b33ed03b7fb93&_phsrc=vzY2&_phstart=successSource

On that page Arthur has been crossed out with a note to see "Page 20"  which you'll find here - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/view/26972118:61596?tid=&pid=&queryId=605406c2e072bb4aa05b0c322c89a29b&_phsrc=vzY1&_phstart=successSource - the majority of which is redacted.

On that page, Tattersall is crossed out and, in green, the name KINGSLEY has been inserted with the ref. 6966 CR 283 MPN

We've all, no doubt, come across women who have, at a later date, married and the register entry updated but his entry was clearly moved in 1939 and name changed at some later date. Why, and what might be going on? 

UPDATE - if relevant - It appears that Eva died "suddenly" in 1943 and her death notice mentions her as being Arthur TATTERSALL's "beloved wife" - so divorce doesn't appear to have been on the cards.

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Cheshire / Hazel Grove and/or Bramhall - Stumped!
« on: Sunday 23 April 23 13:24 BST (UK)  »
I thought I knew this area reasonably well - after all I lived there for nigh on 50 years - but I've just turned up a census sheet for 1841 https://search.findmypast.co.uk/record?id=GBC%2F1841%2F0108%2F0035&parentid=GBC%2F1841%2F0008420514 which contains three place names I've never heard of.

Where are/were Crosley Sands, Bates Lay and Charles Town? The Parish is said to be Bramhall but the sub-district is identified as Hazel Grove.

It must be somewhere down on Bridge Lane as the previous sheet includes Bramall Hall.

Help!!!

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The Common Room / The "British Medical Reform Association" (BMRA)
« on: Friday 31 March 23 14:55 BST (UK)  »
Can't remember whether I've raised this before but it would have been a long time ago so here goes .....

I am researching a person whose obituary claims that he had a strong association with the BMRA and my question is, simply, what was it?

I may be wrong but, from what I can gather, the BMRA was some sort of 19th Century pressure group which tried to bring herbal treatments into mainstream medicine and was largely lobbying for herbal practitioners to be recognised as medical practitioners.

I suspect that the movement originated in the USA and the person I am researching lectured at botanical meetings and ran a herbalist's shop in the UK before emigrating to the US; presumably when the aims of the Association failed to succeed.

Any contributions would be most welcome.

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Lancashire / Wards Coaches - Oldham?
« on: Saturday 11 February 23 09:26 GMT (UK)  »
Does anyone have any information about/connection with Wards Coaches from Oldham/Ashton-u-Lyne? (Early 20C)

Looks like the firm may have been started by a second cousin of mine and I’ve been working though his 15 children.

Seems that the family may have also been involved in funeral direction.

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The Common Room / Alfred BILLINGSLEY and Mary Jane BROWN - what happened to Mary Jane?
« on: Thursday 05 January 23 14:19 GMT (UK)  »
This has been driving me mad for a while!

Alfred Edward (or Edwin) BILLINGSLEY married Mary Jane BROWN at St James Wolverhampton on 6 Jan 1900.

On the 1901, Alfred is boarding alone at Inkerman Street, Wolverhampton - still claiming to be married but Mary Jane is nowhere to be found.

On the 1911, Alfred is at 31 St Matthew Street, Wolverhampton living with a "housekeeper" Rose GAMMON and her children (Alfred, the youngest, aged 5 months, appears to be Alfred Billingsley's son) He still claims to be married but Mary Jane is still nowhere to be found.

In Q2 1920, Alfred and Rose (Rosina Ada Nee. CHAPMAN) marry in Wolverhampton

.... but what happened to Mary Jane? She was born in Kinver, Staffs. on 4 July 1878 to Edward BROWN and Myra Jane MILLWARD and I have far more info. on her and Alfred than it would be practical to post here except what happened to her after she married.

Thanks for reading this far!   

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The Common Room / Joseph Steel(e) - What Happened to Him?
« on: Thursday 28 July 22 11:33 BST (UK)  »
Sarah Ann Hamlet was born in Stockport. Her birth doesn't appear to have been registered but her baptism gives a date of 25 Jun 1863. In 1881, she is unemployed and living with her eldest sister's family; the "Owens", in Hyde. 

In Q4 1886 she married Joseph Steel in Stockport and their son, Percy, was born soon afterwards in Q1 1887.

In June 1889 both she and her son emigrated to the USA; again, with the Owen family where she re-married - Richard Smith, 23 Nov 1911 in New Bedford Mass.

I have gathered a fair bit of information about Sarah Ann, Percy and the "Owens" (that's another Story!) but Joseph Steel(e)? Where did he come from and where did he go?   

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