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Lincolnshire / CARR/SAYER /MOORE
« on: Tuesday 08 February 22 22:46 GMT (UK)  »
I have posted on  this forum many years ago So I apologize if this is a repeat but trying to find out more  information ...  I have made some progress but still hitting a brick wall.
My grandfathers sister was Florence  Annie Sayer born   1895 Aysgarth Yorkshire  ( we did not know my grandfather had a sister till after his death )
In 1909   their father dies and  the mother  marries  HARRY M CARR of Lincolnshire
In  1917 Florence is charged with stealing by her employer and her mother, is sentenced to 12 months   Florence is released  on or about  April 1918... family is living in Ulceby   
June of 1918 her mother passes away and  less than 3 weeks later  Florence  marries her  step father ( i have the marriage certificate  )     I found out there was several children who I assumed were morn to Florence under an alias Alice Moore   from 1920-1929    no  father mentioned    ( Assumed that because it was against the law to marry your step father this is why everything was kept secret )      According to a grandchild of  Florence and Harry  she was always known as Alice    and her "sister Asenath " lived with them .     On the 1921 Census  Harry is  there with my grandfather  ( step son ) Harry is married, in the house Alice Moore  Born  immingham  house keeper  with two of the children.    No sign of a Florence Annie Sayer (s)       In 1939   Harry is present and now with his wife Florence A sayer    Date of birth is that of my  grandfathers  sister  she is  listed as mother to the children.  ( No Alice Moore located )       Florence dies in  1957 ( I have the death certificate) in Scunthorpe the death is recorded by her son John Gordon Carr     ( Gordon was the middle name of one of her siblings that were killed in WWI)  The name is now Florence Alice  Carr     (in 1931 a Child was born to Florence A Sayers  in Glandford Brings   he died  shortly after birth   father Harry M Carr  have the certificate)    I am wondering what could have happened to Florence for 10 years  ..... Could she have taken Asenath sisters name ?  IF not  what could have happened ?  back in Prison ?     Thank you for reading and theory appreciated   

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England / Elizabeth M Palmer
« on: Wednesday 11 March 15 00:28 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for any information to what possibly could have happened to Elizabeth M Palmer  i believe she was born  in Newbottle Durham in 1910.  So some reason she ended  up in Swansea Wales .

She married Lionel P Sayer other wise known as Leonard P Sayers on 10th June 1929  in Wales ( i have the marriage certificate)  in September quarter  1929 In Swansea  gave birth to a daughter Mary  A Sayers.    Lionel has quite the history and Elizabeth was his third wife  neither of the previous wives was there ever a divorce,Lionel also was a deserter of the army .  I do not know what happened to Elizabeth or the daughter as by 1931  Lionel was married again.
I would like to know what happened did they die , move  did Mary A Marry and have children?

I have posted other messages about Lionel just trying to fine tune my findings and wondering what happened  to some of his wives and children

Any assistance appreciated
Regards Karen

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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Florence Alice Sayer/Alice Moore
« on: Friday 04 April 14 19:41 BST (UK)  »
I have had luck in the past few times in posting and now I am hoping will get  help again in which direction to go in
My Aunt was Florence Annie Sayer   she married her step father in 1918  3 weeks after her mother died   Florence married Harry M Carr in  Killingholme Lincolnshire When she married her step father she registered the marriage as Florence Alice Sayer
In searching I found her death certificate that listed a son J G Carr and Harrys death a E W Carr
Took alot of searching and some help of some one on this web site  I found these children along with several others  6   I ordered the birth certificates  their births were registerd to a ALice Moore  from 1920-1930  no father  mentioned I know these are the correct children as i located Obit notices of Florence and Harry
In 1931  there was another child born   he died shortly after birth  he was rediatered to a Flroecne Alice Carr  nee sayer and a harry M Carr
Over the years  I have searched ... I finally have made some contact with the  grandchildren of Harry .. they were not aware of a marriage to a Florence A Sayer .. they were told that  the children were born to a Alice Moore   and Harry was not married to her   
The mystery deeps  why wre 6 children born to a Alice Moore and then in 1931 a child to Florence
Florence was registered as the widow of Harry M Carr on his death certificate and Harry on Florence death certificate
I  was told Alice Moore had a sister Asnetha  both lived in the Glandford Briggs area Lincolnshire
Glandford Briggs  is where  harry and Florence lived
Alice was listed as a House keeper
I found a family in Glanford Briggs  in 1911   Moore  with Children  Alice and Asnetha  ALice born 1892
My question how can I found out if Alice and Florence are two seperate people or the same person  ... I was fold Alice died in the home of J G Carr  that is were Florence died
I have Florence death certificate  1957  but have not found a Alice Moore death
Florence died in Scunthorpe
The family lived in Gandford Briggs area  till   approx 1935 then to Grimsby
Last known address is 4 a First Street Frimsby
Does any one have any insite wo the tangle of this family

Thank you  Karen

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / William Ashby Graham
« on: Wednesday 18 September 13 23:25 BST (UK)  »
Looking for more information on William Ashby Graham  he was born  in 1828  Hampton Wick 
Father is  William Graham  ( per the marriage certificate of William Ashby Graham )  I belive his mother was Esther Ann Ashby  from Lewes Sussex .     I have not been able to find  his birth , or any record  of him  till 1860  when he is with a wife and children
Would aapreciate any help on his parents   Thank you



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Lincolnshire Lookup Requests / Carr family
« on: Wednesday 28 August 13 03:30 BST (UK)  »
I have posted several times over the past 5 years Looking for the family of Harry Carr. I have gained some information , would like to update  the information  in hopes I can find a conection or more information.
Harry Carr  married his Step Daughter in 1918  Her name was Florence A Sayer. ( sayers)
Florence was the sister of my grandfather , he did not speak of Florence   was later that we found out why.   
Harry Main Carr  was changed to Harry Mahon Carr , Florence changed her name is Florence Alice Carr  They lived in Ulceby then in to Scunthorpe /Grimsby
Harry and Florence had  3 sons   I have managed to find the names of two
John Gordon Carr   born per his death certificate in 1922   I applied for his birth certificate and there is no one with that name registered   in 1921 -1923   John died in 1999  married Marion Gilbert    ( I have the marriage certificate )   
Albert Carr  died as a infant
Then on the death certificate of Florence is  signed by E W Carr son  Have not been able to find any one with those initals   EW Carr is also mentioned on  Johns Marriage certificate .
I know they lived at 4a First Ave  Nunsthorp  That address has appeared on Johns Marriage certificate , Address where  Harry died  and several other  times the address has come up
I know at one time a Carr family still lived there  but I obtained no reply when I wrote
I would love to know who E W Carr is  and what happened to  this son
Any assistance would be appreciated   thanks 
Karen

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Hampshire & Isle of Wight / Rose Harriett Holloway
« on: Wednesday 04 May 11 20:21 BST (UK)  »
Looking for information on a Rose Harriett Holloway she was born approx 1908 in South  Stoneham
Father was Thomas Henry Holloway  In 1935  She married a Leonard P Sayer   in Southhampton

I am trying to see if she had any children with this gentleman  also did she die before 1943

Leonard also known as Lionel  was marrired when he  married  Rose and also went on to have two more wives after Rose

Thanks for any assisitance 

Karen

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Lincolnshire / CARR SAYER update continue search
« on: Monday 24 January 11 02:24 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for the children of Harry and Florence Carr      Would  have been born  between 1918-1934
Harry married Florence in 1918 in district of Glandford Briggs     On their death certificated  sons are names but only by inital one looks like E T   the other J G 
Florence died in the 50's in Scunthorpe  Harry also died early 50's in Grimsby
Last known address I have  is 4a First Street Grimsby
Florence is my mothers Aunt   she was estranged  from her brother my mothers father. I would love to find her family  for my mother
Thank you

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Dorset / Burton Sayers
« on: Saturday 08 January 11 19:47 GMT (UK)  »
Wonder if any one can help me I am searching if possible for the obit of Leonard Burton-Sayers ( sayer) His death is registered  in Blandford Dorset  September quarter 1950   I am pending his death certificate 
Also looking for the obit of Lily Burton Sayers 1978 march quarter    Registred Bournmouth Dorset
I appreciate any help thanks



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Lincolnshire / Carr of Lincolnshire
« on: Saturday 08 January 11 19:41 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for information on the following family,wonder if any one can help me
Harry M Carr  born in Market Rasen  Lincolnshire    was a groomsman   lived in Yorkshire for awahile  this is were he married widow  Sarah Robson  Sayer she had 4 children   They moved back  to Lincoln area  Ulceby  area
Sarah died in 1918  and  a month later he married his step daughter  Florence Sayers they remained in the  Lincolnshire area  Scunthorpe/Grimsby  Last known address was 4a First Street  Grimsby  I know they had 2 sons full names unknown all I have initals on the death certificated  one appears to be E T and the other I belive is a John Gordon Carr
Florence was my grandfathers sister and we are trying to find out more about  her family
I have posted before but thought i woudl give it another try
thanks

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