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The Common Room / Grieved to death by by Father / Grandfather
« on: Saturday 06 January 18 10:02 GMT (UK)  »
Can Rootschatters  shed more light on the story behind these gravestones that somone has posted on Twitter?

"Inside this church 2 gravestones lie side-by-side before the altar. One records the death of a man who was, in 1713, 'grieved to death by the unkindness of his father'; the other the death, not 3 months later, of his surviving son, killed 'by the unkindness of his grandfather'. "

The church is Southborough, Norfolk

Names on the gravestones are:
George Gay of Halphin Gay

The unkind father / grandfather is Roger Gay of Wymondham

Lancashire / William & Lucy Raby Lancaster 1900's
« on: Sunday 24 September 17 12:03 BST (UK)  »
Lucy Annie Cope married widower William Raby in Lancaster in October 1894

In 1901, William is visiting his married daughter Nelly Green in Bolton, but Lucy is not with him

In 1911, Lucy is an inmate in an institution in Lancaster listed as "married"

Lucy dies in Lancaster in 1926

Where was Lucy in 1901 ?
Where was William in 1911?

Can anyone find them -- or a death for William ?

The Common Room / Any NORTHINGs out there?
« on: Saturday 22 July 17 19:46 BST (UK)  »
Are you descended from Edward Northing (1864 - 1950) & Betsy Ann Neal ( 1862 - 1925) ?

If so, please get in touch -- we have a family reunion planned for August Bank Holiday Sunday and would love to see you!

Although we are in touch with many of their descendants, we know there are more out there that we do not have contact details for -- especially  descendants of Maud (nee Northing) & Willie Hanson and also of Alfred Northing & Gladys Stead

An elderly relative has a wonderful album of family photos covering several generations.

With the help of us family historians we now have names & dates for most of them

However, he has now asked for a copy of the family tree to "help him visualise who they are & how everyone is related"

I can send him a gedcom, no problem -- but what is the best programme to recommend to him to be able to read it?
I doubt very much he will take up active genealogy -- he just needs something simple to open up the tree

The Common Room / FindMyPast subs -- any offers / vouchers ?
« on: Wednesday 24 August 16 21:50 BST (UK)  »
Have just gone to look something up on FindMyPast -- to find my subscription expired a couple of days ago :(

Before I go paying full price, anyone know of any vouchers or offers for annual subscriptions?

Norfolk / Moses Levi Diss late 1700s/1800s
« on: Friday 29 July 16 21:03 BST (UK)  »
The still unresolved origins of Moses Levi snr has been discussed in this thread:

But now I want to concentrate on Moses Levi junior

On the assumption that in a small village such as Diss, it is unlikely that two people with the name of Moses Levi are not related, I am presuming he is of my family -- but I cannot prove it

He first appears in the Banns book of nearby Burston in 1812/13
He is described as being "of Diss" and his future bride is Lydia Cathermont --but no dates for the publishing of Banns have been entered, so for some reason the marriage did not take place

Next appearance is a bit further afield at East Dereham in April 1813 when a Moses Levi marries Ann Lynn Bloom. I am presuming this is the same Moses but cannot  be 100% sure

1841 census Diss age 40 Linen weaver no-one else in h/h bn in county
1851 census Roydon age 66 Formerly weaver widower  bn Diss
1861 census not traced
1871 census Diss age 86 weaver widower bn  Diss

He is buried in Jan 1872 at Diss age given as 84
Ann presumably died before 1841, but I cannot find a death for her

Birthdate calculated as 1785-88 --- or as late as 1801 if the 1841 census age is accurate (although this is unlikely if the 1813 marriage is correct)

But I cannot find a baptism for him
Granted with a name like Moses Levi he is almost certainly of Jewish heritage -- but his parents (Moses Levi & Frances Fuller) were married in the local Parish Church and his 7 brothers & sisters were baptised in the same church

The earliest baptisms for the family were of Samuel & Isaac on 20 June 1790 -- at which time Samuel was 5 years old (born 2 Apr 1785, 4 months before his parents marriage) and Isaac was 2 (born 24 May 1788)

So Moses could be a twin to either of them -- or even  fit in between them, so why wasn't he also baptised alongside them?

Can anyone find anything to definitely connect Moses to the rest of the Diss family?

And is the Moses Lrvi bpt at South Raynham in 1817 with no parents names but the note "an itinerant Jew" also connected ?

The Common Room / Can RC'ers help find family of this WW1 medal recipient?
« on: Friday 01 July 16 16:12 BST (UK)  »
South Yorkshire Police are looking for the family of a fallen soldier from WW!

APPEAL: Today, in recognition of the anniversary of the Battle of the Somme, we're appealing for your help in returning a Military Medal to the family of a fallen soldier.

 Locked in a cupboard at our police HQ, we've found a Military Medal awarded posthumously to Sergeant Francis Bark from Calver, Derbyshire. We’ve done a bit of digging and now know Francis Bark was the only son of John and Margaret Bark from Fareham in Hampshire.

 At some point between 1911 and 1916, Francis and his family moved to Curbar, Derbyshire. Francis had worked as a woodman before joining Sheffield Police, which possibly explains why we have the medal. He was later enlisted to fight in the First World War with the 8th Battalion (Notts and Derby Regiment, The Sherwood Foresters).

 We think Francis was injured on 27 April in 1918 and lost his life just days later on 2 May aged 26. His body was buried in Pernes British Cemetery in Pas de Calais.

 Francis received the Military Medal, for acts of gallantry and devotion to duty under fire, posthumously. We don’t know the specifics of his brave act but understand it may be linked to his work near Beaumont Hamel on 27 November 1916.

 Francis’ bravery deserves to be properly honoured and so we’re keen to hear from anyone who may know more of Francis’ story or may have links to him. If you do please email engagement "@" and we’ll get back to you.

The Common Room / 1871 census "See others on page"
« on: Thursday 11 February 16 14:37 GMT (UK)  »
I am trying to trace the exact location of a street that existed in 1871 & 1881 but no longer exists under that name now

I have found a family who appear to have lived in the same house for over 60 yrs from 1841 - 1901- although the actual street name where they lived changed over the years

For most censuses, there is a link to "see others on page" on Ancestry -- so I can compare their neighbours easily. But this link is missing on the 1871 census. Anyone know why ? Or am i missing something somewhere?
I have managed to bring the page up on FindMyPast, but they list the residents in alphabetical order, not household order -- so not easy to compare households

Any other ideas?

Opinions please!

Are these two photos of the same man?
My Mum knows who the older one is, but the younger one is not named --could it be the same person?


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