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Cheshire / CPRdb: are there plans for further updates?
« on: Thursday 10 December 20 13:50 GMT (UK)  »
Hello Roots Chat

Does anybody know if the CPRdb people are still active?  It's such a good, reliable resources (if a little clunky with its older software) and the parish notes from churchwarden records are interesting.  It's frustrating though that it's still incomplete, it means you can't conclude research possibilities.
I'd really like to see the remaining Chester wards/parishes on there, and Prestbury parish.

Thanks
Fiona

PS Happy to assist with transcriptions if it would help.

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Carlow / Rosanna Graham b. 1811, Carlow
« on: Friday 25 October 13 11:32 BST (UK)  »
Can anybody with more knowledge/access to Carlow records add any flesh to these bones...

Rosanna Graham, my 3x great grandmother, was baptised in Carlow on 2 September 1811 - COI.  She next appears in Nottingham, England (Radford area) as wife of John White where she has 2 children baptised in the putative RC church there in 1833 (John) and 1835 (Bernard). 

Subsequent children (8 of them), baptised RC between 1837 and 1858, are born in Dublin, but she and John are back in Nottingham in 1861 and she is a widow there is 1881 (census also confirms her birth in Carlow) with her now married daughter Ellen Burton and her family.  I am descended through their son Joseph.

Her parents at the Carlow baptism are Joseph and Mary Graham.  They may be the Joseph Graham and Mary Burrough who marry in Carlow in 1790.  I can't find any other children to Joseph and Mary, but I believe Rosanna may possibly have had a sister Catherine.

I can't find a marriage for Rosanna and John White - they may have met in Nottingham as there are hints that they may have parents/siblings there too.  I only know so far that John was born in Ireland, but nothing more.

Any information/pointers gratefully received

Fiona

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Census and Resource Discussion / Missing database on Ancestry?
« on: Sunday 06 February 11 14:32 GMT (UK)  »
Is it me, or has the 1881 England Census gone walkabout?

Using the general search facility - narrowing it down to that census, admittedly obscure names but ones that I knew I had seen on the 1881 census before, it was saying that the names weren't on there.  I eventually tried less obscure names and it told me the same thing...  Lying fiends!  I'm sure they've taken the database offline

What do you think?

Fiona

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Cheshire / 18th century: Marriage Licenses
« on: Sunday 20 June 10 11:17 BST (UK)  »
Hi all

Does anybody have access to a transcription of the marriage license records?  I think they're usually on a diocese level, so would be for Cheshire & Lancashire.

I'm particularly after the details of a license for a marriage in 1750 Chester between Thomas Bateman and Eleanora Cross (various spellings of her first name).

Many thanks

Fiona

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Lancashire Lookup Requests / 1851 Unfilmed census look up
« on: Sunday 14 February 10 15:10 GMT (UK)  »
Could someone with the information, please provide ages, birth places and occupations for :

8 Ashton Street
Salford, Greengate

Richard Jones
Abigail
Rosanna
Thomas
Mary Ann
James
Lavina (sic)

As found in the online index.  Ref 3e/143

Very many thanks

Fiona

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Cheshire / Burials etc at St Mary on the Hill, Chester - Batemans & Appletons
« on: Sunday 24 January 10 12:50 GMT (UK)  »
With the help of Shep and others, and the Freeman Rolls of the City of Chester at archive.org, I have been able to trace my Bateman family, mostly butchers, back through the 18th century. 

The first of the line in the city seems to have been Phillip Bateman, variously yeoman and butcher, who was buried at St Mary's on 16 October 1709.  According to the CPRdb he was a church warden there at the time of his death.

This Phillip (sic) married Martha Selby, a widow.  She had been married to Nathaniel Selby as Martha Appleton and was buried in St Mary's on 10 April 1734.  She was the daughter of Mathew (sic) Appleton, a butcher, buried in St Mary's on 19 Dec 1690.

Mathew's father was James Appleton, who also seems to have been the first of his line in Chester.  There are however two burials at St Mary's for the name:

1) James Appleton on 30 April 1639 is "buried under the old stone under Troutbecks Chapel" (CPRdb).  Troutbecks Chapel is within the church, I understand, as a chapel or chantry.

2) James Apleton on 27 September 1647 is "buried in the south church yard betwixt the two first pillars eastward" (CPRdb)

Interestingly, there is a burial on 31 october 1647 is listed just by the name Appleton is in fact a widow who is "buried in the south church yard betweene the twoe pillers eastward" (sic CPRdb)

I've been a little short on marriages, and both the baptisms and Freemen Rolls only mention fathers, so I'd love to know who the all important women in their lives were. 

I understand St Mary-on-the-Hill is up a steep lane by the castle and now an education centre.  Would anybody have any burial photographs or be able otherwise to shed any light on which James Appleton might be my ancestor?

Many thanks

Fiona

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Cheshire / Chester baptisms 1810-1817 - Sweeney
« on: Saturday 28 November 09 12:58 GMT (UK)  »
At last I've found the baptism of one of my elusive direct ancestors, and his siblings, in the LDS Familysearch pilot Cheshire Non-conformist records, and of course they raise new questions. 

Baptised at St Werburgh's Catholic Church, Chester were:
Joanna Sweeney on 27 Dec 1815, female. Father: Joanna Sweeney; mother: Martha Bateman Sweeney (page 26)

Jois Sweeney on 1 Aug 1813, birth 15 July 1813, male.  Father: Jois Sweeney; mother: Martha Bateman Sweeney.  (page 24)

Edwardus Bateman Sweeney on , birth 30 Sep 1817, male.  Father: Joane; mother: Martha Bateman Sweeney. (page 33)  Edward is my direct ancestor. 

The various spellings of the father point to John Sweeney.  A John Sweeney married Martha Bateman in Manchester Coll church/Cathedral on 9 Jan 1809.  On the normal LDS, a Martha Bateman was born on 12 June 1790 to Philip Bateman and Ann on 23 June 1790 at Holy Trinity, Chester.

According to the CPRdb, there is also a baptism for an Ellen  Sweeney on 14 Jan 1810 born to John Sweeney, Joiner, and Martha Sweeney.  Parish code is CEMY which I believe is St Mary's, Chester. 

(There is also Joannes Sweeny, bapt 14 Sep 1818 at St Werburgh's, birth 31 Augu 1818, to Bartholomai Sweeny and Katharina Corcoran Sweeny. (page 38).  Is the father pointing to a brother to John?)

I always thought St Werburgh's Catholic church in Chester was of later date (late 19th century), but if they are catholic records, where are the records kept?  Chester?  Also,  I understand that catholic records often reveal more info about godparents etc, is this likely in the St Werburgh records? 

Is anyone in a posiiton to do a look up at the Chester Records office for the 3-4 St Werburgh's baptism records (if they are there), the St Mary's baptism record for Ellen and the Holy Trinity baptism for Martha Bateman?

I'm still learning about what's what in Chester at the end of the 18th century so any advice welcome

Fiona

PS More info on the Sweeney's in Chester at this time welcome.  I'm assuming John Sweeney was either from Ireland or came up from the place Sweeney in Shropshire. 

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Lancashire / Pronunciation advice - Houghton and Halton?
« on: Friday 29 May 09 19:01 BST (UK)  »
I was recently wondering (hoping!) whether the Edward Houghton & Betty, parents of a Peggy Houghton of Coppull, with brother John, were the same people as Edward Halton and Betty Houlcroft who married in Standish and appear in early parochial censuses/land tax returns of Coppull (1781>). 

It was in the back burner of my mind until this afternoon.  I've just discovered that an Alexander Halton was down as Houghton in the 1841 census. 

Is it possible please that Halton can sound like Houghton, and vice versa, in an 18th/19th century mid-westish-Lancashire accent?!

Fiona

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The Lighter Side / Radio 4: You and Yours - NOW!
« on: Thursday 21 May 09 12:06 BST (UK)  »
Something about the "money spent on family history" is going to be a topic on Radio 4's You and Yours in the next hour!
Not sure what, but maybe interesting
Fiona

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