Hello Spades...
Hope you don't mind me making the following post on Rootschat. It's related to a thread on the TradeMe Genealogy board that never really got off the ground. It seems the original poster abandoned it a while ago.
As TradeMe Genealogy is a private board (i.e non-googled) I'd rather post this belated reply to Rootschat so that Google can archive it for future reference.
Plus on Rootschat I can use
italics, bold, etc... much nicer to read :-)
The family are mentioned in several on-line trees and websites but there are a lot of conflicting details. The main problem is that none of the tree owners cite their sources. I can remedy that and hopefully clarify things.
Also a lot of websites only give you partial information as they want you to join up or subscribe. Most annoying but not a concern here on Rootschat.
The caveat is that I've not actually purchased any birth, marriage or death certificates. Nor have I actually answered the original question posed in the TradeMe thread. I've simply made the waters slightly less muddy. So thoughts and theories welcome
As I said... hope you don't mind :-)
All the best
Beg
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The original TradeMe poster (Islandbreeze) asked for help in finding out about his/her Danish grandmother.
- Mabel Fredrickson arrived [in NZ] with only her mother. It was just the two of them.
- Mabel married Alex Gough.
- Mabel and Alex died one day apart and were buried at Taita Cemetry, Lower Hutt.
- Her mother married a Mr Webster we think here in NZ.
The following information was found by TradeMe researcher Stock
BDM NZ Marriages
1906/2208 Mabel FREDERICKSON to Joseph Alexander GOUGH - d.o.m 21 May 1906
The following information was found by TradeMe researcher Carbs51
BDM NZ Deaths
1959/22059 - GOUGH, Mabel May - 68 years
This ties in with info for the couple found on the Taita cemetery website.
Hutt Council cemetery databasehttp://iportal.huttcity.govt.nz:83/?Tab=27So Mabel May GOUGH née FREDERICKSON born c.1891 d.1959 is Islandbreeze's grandmother.
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TradeMe researcher Stock found a 1911 "In Memoriam" notice inserted by a "May and Alex Gough". I'm reasonably sure that this is Mabel May and Joseph Alexander GOUGH using their middle names. The 1920 death notice for their son Eric also mentions "Alex and May of Nelson Street, Petone", not "Joseph and Mabel".
JENSEN - In loving memory of my dear grandmother Louisa Jensen
who departed this life on January 1, 1906.
[...]
Inserted by her loving granddaughter and husband, May and Alex Gough.
Page 4
7 Jan 1911
Dominion
http://tinyurl.com/q9yqac6
The above-mentioned 1906 death was then found on BDM NZ
1906/1717 - JENSEN, Luica - 64 years- d.o.d 1 Jan 1906
So Luica/Louisa JENSEN born c.1842 d.1906 is Islandbreeze's great-great-grandmother.
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Following Islandbreeze's comment that Mabel's
"[...] mother married a Mr Webster we think here in NZ" a likely link between the surnames JENSEN and WEBSTER was also found...
BDM NZ Marriages
1891/465 Mabel JENSEN to William WEBSTER - d.o.m 24 Jun 1891
BDM NZ Deaths
1945/18532 - WEBSTER, Mabel - 79 years
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Mabel WEBSTER, wife of William John WEBSTER, of Nelson Street, Petone, died 21 June 1945
Page 1
21 Jun 1945
Evening Post
http://tinyurl.com/oroljta
So now we have the following three women whose deaths were recorded in NZ:
Luica/Louisa JENSEN née ? (1842 - 1906)
Mabel WEBSTER née JENSEN (1866 - 1945)
Mabel May GOUGH née FREDERICKSON (1891-1959)
The "In Memoriam" notice states that Luica/Louisa JENSEN and Mabel May GOUGH are grandmother and grand-daughter.
The obvious thing to do now is buy the 1906 marriage certificate for Mabel FREDERICKSON to Joseph Alexander GOUGH to see if Mabel FREDERICKSON's mother is Mabel WEBSTER née JENSEN. This was suggested by TradeMe researcher Carbs51. Nothing more has been added to the thread since then.
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