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Is there a way to find Royal Naval records from 1798 to 1805?

I have a John Baird who claims in a land petition to have served as Second Master for that time period and was discharged due to medical.
I would like to know what ship he served on.

Also what is a "Second Master and Pilate"?

Glenn

These are very exciting times.

I have just recently discovered the John Baird was born in  Flimby, Cumberland in 1769.  I was wondering what archive held the parish records for the time period?

This would make the John Baird at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,188303.0.html the same person and my ggggrandfather.

Thanks,

Glenn

Recently some potentially helpful information has been removed from various boards with the statement that the information was in violation of copyright laws.  I contacted the Copyright Bureau of Library and Archives Canada last evening because the gc.ca web site was a little vague.  There response is as follows:

From:  Copyright /droit_d'auteur [copyright/droit_d'auteur@lac-bac.gc.ca]
To:  'Glenn'
CC:  Copyright /droit_d'auteur
Subject:  Reproduction and / or Transcribing Canadian Census



Dear Mr. Baird,

 Your enquiry for the copyright status of Census Canada data available from our website has been received by the Copyright Bureau of Library and Archives Canada.

Census up to and including 1911, which are posted on our website are now in the public domain, which means that the copyright protection has expired.  Additionally, there are no other restrictions applicable to this material, therefore it may be used freely without seeking permission or paying royalties.  We would ask that you kindly acknowledge the source as follows:

Source: Library and Archives Canada's website (www.collectionscanada.ca)

As indicated on the website (for example, 1911 Census), the following does indicate that it is now permissible to purchase copies of this material:

It is possible for libraries, organizations and individuals to purchase or borrow microfilm copies of the Census of Canada, 1911. The reels are 35 mm.

Please note that you will find more information on obtaining copies from Library and Archives Canada as well as our price lists on our website at http://www.collectionscanada.ca/services/005-210-e.html#d.

Please do not hesitate to contact the Copyright Bureau of Library and Archives Canada if you have any questions regarding this request.

Sincerely,

Thank you,
Carole Cloutier
Senior Licensing and Copyright Specialist
Copyright Bureau / Services Branch

Library and Archives Canada
Tel.: (613) 992-2567 / Fax: (613) 996-1341
Email:  copyright/droit_d'auteur@lac-bac.gc.ca
Web site: www.collectionscanada.ca

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From: Glenn [mailto:gbaird5@cogeco.ca]
Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 10:43 PM
To: copyright/droit_d'auteur@lac-bac.gc.ca
Subject: Reproduction and / or Transcribing Canadian Census

 

Sir;

     I  am inquiring to the digital reproduction and / or transcribing of the released Canadian Census for the purpose of free access in the study of genealogy.

    Do these documents (the census record) that have been posted on the "Library and Archive Canada" web site fall under copyright law of Canada and what is our government policies on this subject?

    I could not find any copyright marks or statements when searching the Databases.
    The only information I have been able to find is the policies I could find is:

 (partial statement)

"For all material reproduced from our website, we ask that you respect the conditions listed below. These conditions apply to material that you have obtained written permission to reproduce from Library and Archives Canada and/or any unrestricted public domain material, which can be reproduced without permission. You may reproduce material from the Library and Archives Canada website provided that:
 
 Library and Archives Canada is identified as the source;
  You exercise due diligence in ensuring the accuracy of the material reproduced;
  You do not manipulate and/or modify the material reproduced; and
  The reproduction is not represented as an official version of the material reproduced or as having been made in affiliation with, or with the endorsement of, Library and Archives Canada."
 
Thank you for you time and am looking forward to your reply.

Glenn Baird

 I am looking for a John Baird who possably set sail for Canada from Maryport or a nearby port sometime from Jan 10 1811 to 7 Feb 1811.
It's the only connection I have back to England.

He may have been listed as the Captain of the brig Betsy sailing out of Maryport about the same time.
Records shows he worked for W. Smith and Co. in 1811 (when the record of employment was filed is unknown to me)

He may have been the same John Baird who married Mary Barnes in St. Marys, Carlisle on 09 Jan 1811.
Listed in the parish register, Church of England. St. Mary's Church (Carlisle, Cumberland)

Canadian records from 1809 to 1813 are virtually non-existent.
The ship may have landed in Nova Scotia or New Brunswick.

Ships record may also show a birth of a boy to Mary on 8 Feb.

Were there records kept of these ships departing, are there passanger lists and where can I find them?


Glenn Baird

I am looking for a little help getting my branch of the Baird family from New Brunswick Canada back to what I believe to be England.

The information I can varify is:

John Baird married Mary prior to 08 Feb 1811.
and sailed to Canada that same month.

They supposably had a child aboard ship:

William Barnes Baird b. 09 Feb 1811
He married Sarah Ann Lackie
They, in turn had 10 children:
John Samuel
William Henry
Robert Wesley
Mary Matilda
George C.
Isabel
Issac Lackie
Ann Jane
Victoria Regina
James Albert

The 1881 census shows William and Sarah Ann as being Beard's
Also listed, William Henry married Annie, shown as Beard
Annie E. is Annie Elizabeth Tabor
Birth records of two of her children prove this.

Here are the assuptions:

John Baird was a Captain (determined back in the late '90s??)

Two days ago I found this:
A marriage of John Baird to Mary Barnes on 09 Jan 1811 in St. Marys, Carlisle, Cumberland, England
There were a couple of Bairds in Carlisle and also several Barnes in 1811. (no record of a John)

A couple of miles away in Maryport, the ship "Betsy" was master by a "J. Baird"
There are too many flags pop up.
The middle name of children are usually the last name of the mother.
Dead ends of this John Baird in England.
Confirmed surnames in the area.
All this leads me to beleave that John was a bad boy and had to get out of "Dodge", taking his new wife with him.

I've check every possable site I can think of in Canada to no avail.
My only hope is England, but have a very hard time finding info.

The Question:

Is there a way I can track the ship Betsy as to her captains?
Can anyone check the marriage docs in Carlisle for me sinces I live in Canada?
And is there any (real long shot) log book showing them boarding a ship for a sea port that could have had a sailed for Canada?

Glenn Baird
"All things being equal,
the simplest answer is
usually the correct one"
Occam's Razor