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Family History Beginners Board / Moves between parishes
« on: Saturday 30 March 13 11:14 GMT (UK)  »
Can anyone advise where I should look to ascertain the reason my family moved from Hitcham, Suffolk to Hornchurch, Essex ca. 1820?

I am hoping to find records that refer to at least names in the party, but even better would be reasons for the move

I am sure I read once that the parish of settlement had to agree to the move and that they could send back to parish of origin if family needed poor relief? So I'm thinking there may written records that cover all of this?

Online would be best. Or would it be best to visit Essex Record Office?

Thanks

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Census and Resource Discussion / ancestry vs findmypast
« on: Friday 22 March 13 22:22 GMT (UK)  »
Any recommendation as to which is best a] for parish records coverage and b] for use of on-line family tree building

Thanks

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I wonder if anyone can help me. I am picking up some Rush / Grimwood research I put down in 2006

I have traced my father's line back to my GGG Grandfather James Rush Grimwood born (likely), Hitcham, Suffolk 1811/12. He had 3 siblings that were also born Hitcham, Suffolk (Samuel, Sarah, Elizabeth)…all also with the "Rush Grimwood" name

Based on indirect evidence, I am near 100% certain that the parents of these children were Sarah Grimwood, born Hitcham (possibly Ringshall) Suffolk 1790/91 and Samuel Rush born 1771/72 (likely Suffolk)

All of this is gleaned from census, BMD and parish records from Hornchurch, Essex after 1830 where the family were then living

However, despite searches in the Suffolk Records Office of parish records for Hitcham and surrounding parishes, I have been unable to find baptism records for any of these individuals (neither has Suffolk-based researcher Maggie Driver). Moreover, thinking absence from parish baptism records might mean they were baptists, I also searched the Wattisham Baptist Meeting House Register "Register of Births" (the only, but extensive baptist records held at the SRO for parishes in the Hitcham area). Plenty for Grimwood births were recorded in there (most from Hitcham/Ringshall), but none of the above 6 individuals

The Rush Grimwood name clearly comes from the fact that Sarah Grimwood and Samuel Rush were not married and so the children took the mother's surname, but were given the father's surname as a middle name

There is a Hitcham parish record of an 1830 marriage between a Samuel Rush and a Sarah Grimwood which I assume must be the same couple who must have travelled back from Essex to Hitcham specifically for the marriage

So, I am looking for :
1] Where I can look next to ascertain baptism/births of the above individuals
2] Has anyone else researched this family?
3] What might be the reasons for the complete absence of baptisms from all records - something to do with the illegitimacies? Is it conceivable that people in those times did not get baptised? Seems unlikely.
4] Is the fact that they travelled back to Suffolk to get married in 1830 revealing of anything (i.e. rather than get married in Hornchurch, Essex where they had settled)
5] Any thoughts on what was required to move to a new parish/what records I can search, in case any records pertaining to the Suffolk to Essex move sheds light
6] Where else might I look ?!?

Thanks in advance

Mark Grimwood

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Suffolk / Help! Mystery of missing Grimwood / Rush baptisms - Hitcham area
« on: Wednesday 20 March 13 20:36 GMT (UK)  »
I wonder if anyone can help me. I am picking up some Rush / Grimwood research I put down in 2006

I have traced my father's line back to my GGG Grandfather James Rush Grimwood born (likely), Hitcham, Suffolk 1811/12. He had 3 siblings that were also born Hitcham, Suffolk (Samuel, Sarah, Elizabeth)…all also with the "Rush Grimwood" name

Based on indirect evidence, I am near 100% certain that the parents of these children were Sarah Grimwood, born Hitcham (possibly Ringshall) Suffolk 1790/91 and Samuel Rush born 1771/72 (likely Suffolk)

All of this is gleaned from census, BMD and parish records from Hornchurch, Essex after 1830 where the family were then living

However, despite searches in the Suffolk Records Office of parish records for Hitcham and surrounding parishes, I have been unable to find baptism records for any of these individuals (neither has Suffolk-based researcher Maggie Driver). Moreover, thinking absence from parish baptism records might mean they were baptists, I also searched the Wattisham Baptist Meeting House Register "Register of Births" (the only, but extensive baptist records held at the SRO for parishes in the Hitcham area). Plenty for Grimwood births were recorded in there (most from Hitcham/Ringshall), but none of the above 6 individuals

The Rush Grimwood name clearly comes from the fact that Sarah Grimwood and Samuel Rush were not married and so the children took the mother's surname, but were given the father's surname as a middle name

There is a Hitcham parish record of an 1830 marriage between a Samuel Rush and a Sarah Grimwood which I assume must be the same couple who must have travelled back from Essex to Hitcham specifically for the marriage

So, I am looking for :
1] Where I can look next to ascertain baptism/births of the above individuals
2] Has anyone else researched this family?
3] What might be the reasons for the complete absence of baptisms from all records - something to do with the illegitimacies? Is it conceivable that people in those times did not get baptised? Seems unlikely.
4] Is the fact that they travelled back to Suffolk to get married in 1830 revealing of anything (i.e. rather than get married in Hornchurch, Essex where they had settled)
5] Any thoughts on what was required to move to a new parish/what records I can search, in case any records pertaining to the Suffolk to Essex move sheds light
6] Where else might I look ?!?

Thanks in advance

Mark Grimwood

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