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William Parry a mariner married my 2x Great Grandmother, Jane Jones, on 9th November 1841 at St Cynhairn Church near Pentrefelin, Ynyscynhairn. Other than this marriage I have very little information about him. At the time he was full age, occupation mariner, father Harry Parry and residence Portmadoc.
From the 1851 Census (HO107/2512/547/47) Jane and her 3year old son Henry Parry were living at No. 1 Constitution Hill, Portmadoc. Jane was born in Abererch not Portmadoc as shown on the Census. I cannot find William, he may have been away at sea.
By the 1861 Census (RG09/4327/33/17) Jane is a widow still with her son Henry and now with a 7year old daughter Jane Jones (illegitimate).
I assume that William died between 1848 and 1853 although not guaranteed.
Any help in finding where and when William was born and when and where he died would be much appreciated.
Glyn

Hi
If anyone has the Welsh version of Y Gestiana, the 1892 book about the history of the Porthmadog area, would you please check the attached page from the English translation version for accuracy. The section concerning the family of the famous harpist Dafydd y Garreg Wen is totally at odds with the family tree [8] in T Ceiri Griffith's Achau.
In Achau Humphrey Owen's daughter Ann Humphreys married John Griffith not Dafydd Owen.
Also in Achau the Dafydd who married Elizabeth Roberts, Ty Mawr Treflys was the son of Owen Owens who in turn was the son of Owen Humphrey son of Humphrey Owen.
I am interested in the accuracy since I have lines through both my Nains which converge with Humphrey Owen, or at least I thought they did until I saw this biography.

Glyn

I am trying to find the baptism record for one of my GG Grandfathers Owen Owen/Evans (1798-1851) but the possible solutions I have found do not seem to follow the expected Welsh tradition of retaining family names i.e. first son named after paternal grandfather, second son named after maternal grandfather, etc.
At his wedding to Elizabeth Hughes in Caerhun in 1824 Owen’s second name was Owen, by the time of the baptism of his third child, Mary, in 1828 it had changed to Evans. This was a common occurrence at the time. I had assumed from this that the first name was patronymic i.e. his father’s first name was Owen, and then Owen had later taken his father’s second name Evan as a surname. For years I have had to leave it at this point since I could not find a match since the only clue I had to Owen’s birthplace was from the 1841 Census and that only indicated that it was Caernarvonshire. Since then I have found the scan of the register for Mary’s baptism at Roe Calvanistic Methodist Chapel in Caerhun, this gives Owen’s birth parish as Gyffin.
There are two boys named Owen baptised in Gyffin around 1798:
Owen son of David Owen Labourer and his wife Elizabeth
Owen son of Thomas Evans Farmer and his wife Anne
My problem is that none of those first names appear in the list of Owen and Elizabeth’s children who are:
Evan, Grace, Mary, William, Jane, William, Robert and Hugh
Elizabeth’s parents were Hugh Thomas and Grace Williams also Grace’s parents were William Roberts and Jane Evans. This would indicate that Owen and Elizabeth were following the tradition of naming their children after their parents and grandparents. Who were Evan, Mary and Robert named after?
I would be grateful for any thoughts on the matter.

Glyn

A few years ago there was a topic, http://www.rootschat.com/links/01l64/ , about the three Vaughan sisters from Penmachno, Barbara, Sarah and Hannah. Barbara Roberts nee Vaughan was my 3x Great Grandmother. I believe that the Hannah Williams in the following 1851 Census in Penmachno was Hannah Vaughan who married John Williams in 1835.
House Bryn
John Williams      Head   38   Quarry Man      Festiniog, Merionethshire,
Hannah Williams   Wife   36   Quarry Man Wife   Penmachno, Caernarvonshire,
Robert Williams      Son   14   Slate Maker      Penmachno, Caernarvonshire,
Richard Roberts      Son   12   Scholar         Penmachno, Caernarvonshire,
John Williams      Son   10   Scholar         Penmachno, Caernarvonshire,
Catherine Williams   Daur   8            Penmachno, Caernarvonshire,
Janet Williams      Daur   6            Penmachno, Caernarvonshire,
HO107/2508/438/5

My query is where are the family in the 1841 Census and any ideas why the second son has a different surname.

Glyn