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Ireland / Toole Family
« on: Thursday 22 February 18 20:26 GMT (UK)  »
Hi Everyone,

I have previously posted on here with respect to:

James Frederick Toole

"James Frederick Toole was born on 9 January 1796 in Aldgate, Middlesex, the son of Mr. Toole. He married Elizabeth Bertout on 6 September 1818 in Newington, Surrey. They had six children in 10 years. He died on 31 January 1847 at the age of 51, and was buried in Nunhead, Surrey"

and

John Toole

John Toole was born in 1801 in Middlesex, the son of Mr. Toole. He married Ann Trist on 6 July 1824 in his hometown. They had one child during their marriage. He died on 5 March 1838 in London, at the age of 37, and was buried in England.

But we have no idea as to their parents.

Until now it was believed that their parents where from Middlesex / London.

However the Son on J F Toole was a famous actor called John Lawrence Toole.

"When John Lawrence Toole was born on 12 March 1830 in London, his father, James, was 34 and his mother, Elizabeth, was 36. He married Susan Caslake on 27 April 1854 in London, London. They had two children during their marriage. He died on 30 July 1906 in London, London, having lived a long life of 76 years, and was buried in Kensal Green, Middlesex."

Now having contacted the Masonic Lodges, it shows that his father or grandfather was originally from Ireland.

Which means that James Frederick Toole could have originally been born in Ireland, but it is almost certain that his brother was born in England.

There are multiple sources stating the irish connection.

Some help would be greatly appreciated.

This is the old London/Middlesex thread which is now discounted, due to multiple sources confirming an Irish origin.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=777735.msg6316426#msg6316426

There is a suggestion that they could have come from Antrim, but this is purely guessing.

A potential is John Toole and Mary Fearny  but i cannot see a mention of John toole, only James Toole

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Toole / O'Toole In London
« on: Friday 25 August 17 13:55 BST (UK)  »
Hey all, Can anyone help me identify the mother and father of James Frederick Toole and John Toole.

James Frederick Toole
1796–1847

BIRTH 9 JAN 1796 • Aldgate, Middlesex, England St Botolph Without Aldgate
DEATH 31 JAN 1847 • 17 Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate, Southwark, London, Surrey, England
MARRIAGE 6 SEP 1818 6 Sep 1818 • Saint Mary,Newington,Surrey,England (Elizabeth Bertout)

John Toole
1801–1838

BIRTH 1801 • Devon, England, United Kingdom
DEATH 5TH MARCH 1838 • Devonshire Street St Botolph, Bishopsgate, London, Middlesex
MARRIAGE 6 Jul 1824 • St Anne Soho, Westminister, Middlesex, England (Anne Trist1799-1878)

John's wife moved in with James after John's death. THis is on the 1841 Census.

It is very strange that they are born so far apart, but this is what all of the documentation suggests.
We have 100s of articles on James F Toole as he was a famous toastmaster, but there seems to be nothing on his early years.

We presume their mum and dad came from Ireland, but that is it.

One older family tree suggests the dad came from Antrim, Norther Ireland, but there is no proof on this.

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Antrim / O'Toole Antrim B ABT. 1765 D ABT 1818
« on: Thursday 07 July 16 19:46 BST (UK)  »
Hi everyone, help would be greatly appreciated in finding the following person

O'Toole from Antrim (information found in family records)

It is likely his first initial is J (as all his Sons and grandchildren were James or John)

We have traced the sons and we have hard proof of them living together etc, but no record of the mother and no record of the father other than the above.

There is no mention of the mother or father on any marriage certificates. We have tried to locate birth certificates but they do not exist (devonshire records and London records)

His sons are

James Frederick Toole
1796–1847
BIRTH 9 JAN 1796 • Aldgate, Middlesex, England St Botolph Without Aldgate
DEATH 31 JAN 1847 • 17 Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate, Southwark, London, Surrey, England
4th great-grandfather

John Toole
1801–1838
BIRTH 1801 • Devon, England, United Kingdom
DEATH 5TH MARCH 1838 • Devonshire Street St Botolph, Bishopsgate, London, Middlesex

We know the father is from County Antrim from century old family notes, but we have no further information.

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Pembrokeshire / Mary Williams B 1853 Robeston Wathen
« on: Wednesday 20 January 16 20:27 GMT (UK)  »
I am looking for a Mary Williams (Married name) who was born 1853 in Robeston Wathen, Pembrokshire.

Once married she was a farmer's wife.

It would be great to find her parents.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

I did try and request a birth certificate from GRO but they couldn't find one.

Her husband was George Thomas born 1846 Llandowror, Carmarthenshire, Wales


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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Marriage Certificate
« on: Monday 18 January 16 18:11 GMT (UK)  »
Help Please :)

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Handwriting Deciphering & Recognition / Birth Certificate Desciphering
« on: Monday 18 January 16 17:47 GMT (UK)  »
Could someone help with the mothers name... Maria Alice? Maria Aloe? After it says needler Ironman?

Moderator comment: Full certificate removed, small portions only are allowed for deciphering purposes

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / James Frederick Toole 09 01 1796 -> 31 01 1847
« on: Tuesday 29 December 15 16:58 GMT (UK)  »
Can anybody help me find the parents of

James Frederick Toole 09 01 1796 -> 31 01 1847

Born Aldgate, Middlesex, England St Botolph Without Aldgate

Died 17 Devonshire Street, Bishopsgate, Southwark, London, Surrey, England

I have lots of information regarding his job and his marriage to Elizabeth Bertout.

James Frederick Toole 09 01 1796 -> 31 01 1847 also had a brother John Toole 1801 -> 05 03 1838

Born: Devon, England, United Kingdom apparently

Died living in his brothers house: Devonshire Street St Botolph, Bishopsgate, London, Middlese

John Toole was married to Anne Trist ( I have lots of information on her family too)

I have our wedding reception on the 29th of January after just recently getting married abroad and i would really like to have this last bit of the puzzle finished to show my relatives :) We are printing out a large poster going back 8 generations and this is the only missing link.

(Some we have going back 800 years .... just not this line)

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London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests / Parents of Maria Hix
« on: Wednesday 19 August 15 20:14 BST (UK)  »
Maria Hix
BIRTH APRIL 1871 • Dalston, London, England
DEATH MAR 1933 • Hendon, Middlesex, England
2nd great-grandmother

Spouse

Charles John Wolley
BIRTH 1 JUN 1851 • Shoreditch, Middlesex, England
DEATH MAR 1908 • Greater London, London, Middlesex, United Kingdom
2nd great-grandfather


I can't find any information on Maria's parents

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Somerset Lookup Requests / Wife of Leonard Mapstone - Gladys A M White
« on: Wednesday 19 August 15 13:09 BST (UK)  »
I can't find any reference to a Gladys A M White who married Leonard Mapstone in Axbridge in 1931 except the marriage certificate.

The Mapstones have been in Meare for centuries, but Gladys white.....

I am guessing she died in the war or before as Leonard remarried to a lady of the surname Baldwin after the war, but i cannot find a death certificate or divorce certificate for Gladys

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