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Armed Forces / John BATH, Greenwich Pensioner 1861 - finding a Navy record.
« on: Saturday 11 November 17 02:18 GMT (UK)  »
John was baptised on 16 Jan 1791 at Saint Stephens By Launceston, Cornwall. In the 1841 census he is living at St Stephens, Launceston, and his occupation is "Navy P" - which I interpreted as pensioner. In the 1861 census, he is living at the same place, and his occupation is "Pensioner Greenwich".

I have tried to find a military record for him, on Ancestry and Find My Past. FindMyPast has a pension record for a John Bath, Royal Marine, pension awarded 5th August 1825. This man is noted as 41 years of age, having served 21 years, 4 months. Did volunteers overstate their ages?

This morning I visited our local Family History Centre, to check the film of attestation papers for marines for 1804. I couldn't find him - in fact there were few surnames starting with "B" in the records.

I have looked at two other John BATHs - one awarded a pension in 1815...he is too old to be the man I'm looking for. Another, awarded a pension in 1842, and with a military record on Ancestry, wouldn't have been on the 1841 census.

Where else can I look for information on John? Is it worth requesting the microfilm of 1825 attestations? A note on Family Search said the attestation paper could be filed by discharge date.

New Zealand Completed Requests / Naturalisation in New Zealand in the 1880s.
« on: Wednesday 12 July 17 00:15 BST (UK)  »
Does the Archives have copies of the applications for naturalisation in 1880? I have found the letters of naturalisation issued, and we have the person's origin and date of naturalisation from the index.

England / Arthur BLYTH, man of mystery.
« on: Saturday 17 June 17 11:49 BST (UK)  »
Arthur married Sarah PROCTOR at the parish church of St Giles, Camberwell, Surrey, on August 19th 1854. Sarah was a spinster, of full age. Arthur was a batchelor, of full age, a gardener. Arthur's father was William BLYTH, a farmer. The witnesses were James BLYTH and Eliza CHEYNEY.

Arthur and Sarah had two children registered in Middlesex. William George BLYTH, born 1855, registered Upper Clapton, and Frances Eliza BLYTH, registered Stamford Hill. Frances was baptised on 15th August 1858 at the Parish of Reigate district of Redhill, Surrey. Arthur is named as father on the baptism.

In the 1861 census Sarah is living with her sister Frances CHEYNEY at Reigate Foreign in Surrey. She is married, but there is no sign of Arthur.

In the 1871 census, Sarah is living with her mother in Stretton, Staffordshire. She is married, but there is no sign of Arthur.

In 1881, Sarah is a housekeeper for her uncle, Benjamin WALKER, in Stretton, Staffordshire. Still married, no Arthur.

In 1891, Sarah is still living in Stretton, as a widow.

I have not been able to find a trace of Arthur BLYTH, apart from his wedding, and the baptism of his daughter.

Europe / Help with translation from Norwegian
« on: Monday 24 April 17 06:14 BST (UK)  »
My wife's 2nd great grandfather, Peder BRUNGOT, died in Aalesund, Norway. I have found his probate online, and would appreciate a translation of it. What I'm looking for is the family information it contains - I don't need the list of assets and expenses translated.

The probate is here:

number 7, 1873, page 36. It continues on page 37, and at the top of page 38.

Antrim / Who was William McCULLOUGH's mother?
« on: Wednesday 22 March 17 22:36 GMT (UK)  »
William is a great grandfather of my wife. He was born in the early 1850s, in the Ballymena area of County Antrim. We have been unable to find a baptism for him, or his mother's name.

On 7th January 1874 William married Margaret MILLAR at the 3rd Presbyterian Church, Ballymena. His age is given as "full", and his father's name is also William McCULLOUGH, a farmer.

In the 1901 census, his age is 47 years.
In the 1911 census, his age is 58 years.

In December 1911 William, his wife, daughter Agnes, and two grandchildren left London for New Zealand, to join the other members of his family here.

William died in Christchurch, New Zealand on April 17th 1929. His age on his death registration is given as 82 years. His age at marriage as 21 years. The informant did not know the name of William's mother. I have attached a copy of this registration.

The naming patterns of William's children may give a clue to his mother's name.
His first child, James, named for Margaret MILLAR's father
Second child, William, named for William's father.
Third child, Jane, named for Margaret MILLAR's mother
Fourth child, John - family name?
Fifth child, Mary Ann ??
Sixth child, Martha.

Ernest was born in Easington, Durham on 21st November 1879. At some stage he emigrated to New Zealand, and in 1907, at Waihi, he married Mabel CARLESS. Ernest's occupation was engineer.
In 1916, he enlisted in the Royal Naval Volunteer Reserve, and served in England. He was demobilised in May 1919, and disappeared. In 1922, Mabel was granted a divorce from him - I have attached a copy of the newspaper report.

In UK outward passenger lists, an E R Emerson, locomotive superintendant, left Liverpool on the "Agapenor", departing 23rd November 1919, bound for Singapore. Was this him?

New Zealand Resources & Offers / Wild card and broad searches on the BDM index
« on: Friday 18 November 16 18:13 GMT (UK)  »
The New Zealand BDM index is now available on Family Search. This allows more flexible searching than the original database.

Australia / Where did Alfred BAMPTON come from?
« on: Tuesday 09 August 16 01:48 BST (UK)  »
Alfred BAMPTON was the second husband of my wife's great grandmother, Jane CAVANAGH. In the copy of their marriage, on 28/5/1913, in Christchurch, New Zealand, Alfred is 43 years old, from Australia, and his parents are Edward BAMPTON and Jane Margaret NUTTER.

Edward and Jane were born in Bathurst, NSW, in 1852 and 1848, respectively. They married in Bathurst in 1873. There are birth registrations for children to Jane NUTTER, in Bathurst,  in 1868, 1870, and 1872, and a further 8 births registered after her marriage to Edward. None of these children are called Alfred. The child who was born in 1870, Thomas, died in 1871.

Alfred first appears in New Zealand as a witness at a court case, in Culverden, in 1909.

Alfred died in Timaru hospital, South Canterbury, on 3/12/1918.

New Zealand Completed Requests / Anyone know about School Cadet shooting trophies?
« on: Saturday 30 April 16 04:13 BST (UK)  »
Yesterday my wife was given a picture of her grandfather, standing with a large trophy shield. This appears to be the "Marksman's Challenge Shield", awarded to school cadet units for rifle shooting. It is also called "The Weekly Press Shield" - they donated it. The picture was taken in Invercargill, between 1919 and 1925. Her grandfather died in 1925. I would like to know what year the picture could have been taken.

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