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Roxburghshire / Bermersyde, Mertoun
« on: Saturday 12 September 15 16:48 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone tell me if there was a Bemersyde village, as well as a Bemersyde estate?

I have two ancestors born at Bemersyde, which I think means that their father probably worked and lived on the Bemersyde estate, but I'm not sure if there was a Bemersyde village as well although I haven't been able to find one.

Thanks

Sue

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Wales / Birth of Martha Jane Davies about 1877 - 1880
« on: Saturday 11 July 15 17:21 BST (UK)  »
Please can anyone help me track down my great grandmother's birth?

She was Martha Jane Davies, birth unknown. She married William Goatman Hall on 1 March 1901 in Pembrey, Carmarthenshire, aged 24. Her marriage certificate shows her father to be Thomas Llewellyn Davies/Davis (deceased), painter. After 1904 we know her history.

She died in Llanelli on 2 December 1914.

This is all we know for sure about her, and includes a 2 year discrepancy in her age, which could conceivably be anytime 1877-1880.

I have tracked down a Thomas Llewellyn Davies, born in Swansea 1853 who at 17 (1871 census) is a painter. His father and brother are also painters so I'm assuming this was his trade as opposed to someone 'jobbing'.

In 1871 Thomas LLewellyn lived in Calvert Street, Swansea, with his father Thomas, mother Jane, and siblings Jane, George and Louisa. After that he disappears - it's possible that he died (there are a number of Thomas Davies deaths between 1871 and 1881 in Swansea). If he is the right person he married Martha Jane's mother sometime between 1871 and 1881 and Martha Jane was born.

This has been bugging the family for years now, and at least two other families who are distantly related and have an interest in her.

So far the main possibility is a Martha Jane Davies born 21 Oct 1878 in Swansea workhouse -
father Thomas Davies, collier
mother Sarah Davies formerly Llewellyn.

A Martha Jane Davies was found in Robeston Wathen, Pembroke in 1881 at the age of 1 living with her grandparents. Although this possibly is her, the father's occupation is collier rather than painter. I know Thomas Llewellyn Davies could have become a collier after 1871, but it's all rather an assumption. And we still don't know what happened to her parents.

In 1891 Martha is 12 and living with grandparents again, but this time different people.

After years of research we still haven't really pinned down who Martha Jane was and for me there are just too many ifs and buts in what we have. I'm hoping that some of the super sleuths on RC can help find something a bit more definitive for me.

I hope I've given enough information and not made it too muddled. Thanks in advance to anyone who is willing to try and help out.

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Durham / John Edward Gooch - missing in 1881
« on: Saturday 27 June 15 22:28 BST (UK)  »
Hi

I hope someone can shed some light on this before it drives me crazy!

John Edward Gooch was born in 1866 in Sunderland. Parents Samuel and Jemima Gooch.

In 1871 he was in Sunderland:

Samuel Gooch  28 Wells Norfolk
Jemima Gooch  28 Wells Norfolk
Maria Gooch    6   Sunderland
John Gooch   4  Sunderland
Jemma Gooch  2  Sunderland


In 1891 he was at Crown Road, Southwick, Sunderland with his parents Samuel and Jemima and we know where he went from there.

However in 1881 he is not at home and so far we've been unable to trace him, although we did find a John Crouch at Industrial school, but he was two years too young. And I suspect that this family wouldn't have been able to afford to send a child to Industrial School.

If anyone can help find him we'd appreciate it very much, thanks.

Sue






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Gloucestershire / Public Cottage, Gorsley
« on: Friday 26 June 15 11:26 BST (UK)  »
Thomas Hall died in Gorsley in 1895, and according to a newspaper report lived at Public Cottage, Gorsley.

Seems an odd name for a cottage, has anyone come across it before, or have any idea where it might have been please?

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Armed Forces / Carmarthenshire Militia
« on: Tuesday 23 June 15 17:29 BST (UK)  »
I'm hoping that some of the military brains on here can shed a bit of light on what my ggrand father might have been up to with the Carmarthen militia and special reservists. I'm finding it a bit of a puzzle fitting in his service record with the rest of his life as I know it - I came across his service record by chance, not knowing that he done any service at all.

His name was Morgan William Thomas, b 1866 in Landore, Swansea. As far as I can make out he joined the militia on 4th March 1895 - he was a Gunner, and served 10 years with the Royal Garrison Artillery as far as I can make out. He then joined the Army Reserves (Special Reservists) until 1911, when he became unfit for service. Possibly his eye sight going, possibly just his age!

He lived in Kidwelly, where he was a washman in the tin works, but in 1899 he suddenly appears in Hubberston Village , has two children born in Milford, and in 1901 the census shows him as a cook on a steam ship.

The 1901 census shows him in Hubberston Village - I assume that he was stationed at Hubberston Fort, but the references I can find suggest that Pembroke and Cardigan militia were used at Hubberston Fort.

By 1904 he is back in Carmarthen for the next child - or his wife is, at least. Would he have had to go to Milford for 2 or 3 years? Would he have been able to take his family and live in the village? I may be reading too much into him going to Hubberston, as there may be a different reason for him being in Milford (as yet undiscovered!).

His attestation papers show him both as a collier (??) and a fishmonger. He does become a fishmonger after his return to Carmarthen, but I'm not aware that he was a collier at any time.

The most puzzling aspect is - why would he pretend to be 5 years younger than he actually is when he originally signs up? He would have been about 29 - not too old for the army surely? If it wasn't for the family details in the record I would think this was a different Morgan William Thomas.

Also - if he was with the militia in Milford - what was he doing as a cook on a steam ship???

If anyone can decipher his record and help me understand it I'd be very grateful. (His dob shows as 1871!).


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I can't read this death certificate cause of death - it's a one year old infant.

Typically I can read diptheria and Tubercular meningitis on the ones either side but this has me stumped.

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Immigrants & Emigrants - General / Calgary Altar on passenger list
« on: Wednesday 17 June 15 16:00 BST (UK)  »
I have a passenger list for a ship going to Canada that shows 'Calgary altar' as a passengers destination. At least that's what I think it means.

I don't get any hits when I google it - does anyone know where it is or what it means please?

Thanks

Sue

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Roxburghshire / How do I find out who owned land in Gattonside in 1826?
« on: Tuesday 09 June 15 11:26 BST (UK)  »
In the nls website (link here http://maps.nls.uk/view/74400048 ) on the John Wood map for Melrose and Gattonside in 1826 I've noticed that some land just east of Gattonside House (and probably part of the Gattonside estate) is marked as 'Mr Keddie' - I'm assuming that the names are the tenants rather than owners.

Does anyone know whether it is possible to find out who the 'Mr Keddie' was? I don't know of family members being at Gattonside at that date, but from the 1850's one of our families worked on the estate for over twenty years as market gardeners. Again I assume that they rented land from the estate. Sons seem to follow fathers around the farms, so I think it's possible that the George I know about was introduced to the estate by a relative who already worked there.

The family history in the Borders in the 1820s is all a bit hazy as I've had trouble tracking them down and linking them up, so this may give me another pointer.

Thanks to anyone who is able to help

Sue

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Gloucestershire Completed Lookup Requests / Joseph Merrett Goatman b 1817
« on: Tuesday 28 April 15 21:47 BST (UK)  »
Can anyone help me to track Joseph down please? I don't know much about him, except that I believe he was the son of Annbenjamin Merrett b 1786 Churchdown, Glos, and possibly Samuel Goatman b 1792 in Ashleworth, Glos. As far as I can work it out Ann and Samuel were married 5 Nov 1820, 3 years after Joseph was born. I suspect that he may not be Samuel's son, but Ann's, taking the Goatman name after they were married, but that is pure supposition. He was probably born in Churchdown, as Ann and Samuel lived there during their younger years. I've traced the other children but can't find any births for either Joseph Merrett or Joseph Merrett Goatman, or even Joseph Goatman, that fit with the birth year. I think that came off a census, but so long ago I can't remember which one!! Many thanks in advance to anyone who attempts to help  ;D

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