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World War One / Separation Certificate of Identity
« on: Monday 19 June 23 23:45 BST (UK)  »
I am hoping that someone can help me with regard to the following.

I have found, in a WW1 soldier's service record, a mention of a 'Separation Certificate of Identity' - in conjunction with a copy of his mother's death certificate, she having died in February 1919.

As this is most definitely nothing to do with his 'Protection Certificate and Certificate of Identity', which was issued to him when he was discharged in November 1919, has anyone previously encountered such a certificate?

My current working theory is that the February certificate, which was issued by the Registrar of his mother's death in Shrewsbury (and not by his RAMC unit in Blackpool), was a document that he may have needed to show, if challenged, when he temporarily returned home for his mother's funeral.

Willyam

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The Common Room / Online Probate Applications
« on: Monday 05 September 22 15:48 BST (UK)  »
Please forgive me if this has been raised before, but can anyone confirm that all (E&W) Grants arising out of online applications are now indexed as being issued solely by the Central Registry.

I ask this because it seems to me that, as the result of this enforced change of practice, we have now lost a potentially valuable search resource by not being able to relate to a local registry.

By way of illustrating this point, some years ago I was able to clarify how it was that Probate for a Mr Jones, who had died in mid-Wales, was granted by the Newcastle Registry. Although this should have thrown me, it was enormously helpful because I separately knew that his daughter lived just over the border in Scotland - and so concluded that she had utilised the nearest registry in England.

Willyam

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World War One / Conscription question
« on: Saturday 24 August 19 12:51 BST (UK)  »
Please forgive me if this topic has been previously aired.

My interest in the workings of conscription relate to a particular man who volunteered to enlist on 22 March 1915 but who was rejected because he failed his medical.

My understanding is that, because the reason for his rejection related to a significant permanent disability, he would have been told in 1915 that he was unfit for any military service.

In the light of this, would he still have received call-up papers in 1916 simply because he was eligible by age or was a register maintained at his local recruitment depot for all such rejected volunteers - so that their names could be weeded out to prevent the unnecessary issue of call-up papers?

Willyam


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The Common Room / 1939 Register annotation
« on: Sunday 14 April 19 10:33 BST (UK)  »
I have just been looking at the 1939 Register entry for a man whom I believe may be my grandfather.

Just to the left of his entry appears this annotation: I.C. (although the I could just as well be a 1)

It looks to me as if this was written at the same time, and by the same hand, as the name & date of birth were entered and it is therefore not a later addition.

Might anyone have an idea as to what the annotation I.C. (or 1.C.) was meant to indicate?

Willyam


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World War One / Rejected Volunteer
« on: Sunday 08 July 18 21:28 BST (UK)  »
Hopefully this is not too convoluted!

I am trying to find out if a man who volunteered in 1915 & who was rejected on medical grounds (i.e. he failed to pass the medical examination) would, at the point of rejection, have been issued with some form of paperwork confirming this.

What I have in mind is a scenario whereby this man, whose physical impairment was not visibly obvious, would possibly have been subsequently challenged by either official or non-official persons as to why he was not in uniform.

When so challenged, would he have been able to produce some formal documentation to explain his situation?

Willyam

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World War One / Medical examination when joining The Remounts
« on: Monday 11 June 18 17:34 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I am aware that it was standard practice that every new recruit had to undergo a medical examination to ensure that he was fit to serve.

However, I am wondering if the need for such an examination did not apply in the case of men joining The Army Remount Service of the RASC.

I mention this because in a "call to arms" recruitment notice, that formed part of a national newspaper advertising campaign in 1915, the RASC specifically stated that "ordinary standards of height and chest measurement may be waived provided men are organically sound" and also that the eyesight test could be taken whilst wearing glasses.

My thinking is that the usual medical examination of such recruits could well have been counterproductive, if it inadvertently led to the rejection of a disproportionate number of men that the Remount Service so desperately needed.

Perhaps instead just a visual physical check might have been conducted (e.g. all limbs present & correct etc.).

My interest in this topic is prompted by the discovery that an ancestor was accepted into The Remounts even though (as his medical discharge papers confirm) he would surely have been rejected had he undergone a full medical examination at the point of recruitment.

Does anyone have an ancestor who joined The Remounts around this time and who may have been "organically sound" but not otherwise fit enough for the rigours of the battlefield?

Willyam


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World War One / Military roles for volunteers
« on: Monday 11 June 18 16:46 BST (UK)  »
Hello,

I am currently looking into the service profiles of 4 great-uncles - each of whom enlisted voluntarily in 1915.

In the 1911 census, three of them (all brothers) were employed by the GWR, one as a Fireman & the other two as Platelayers - occupations that they all returned to after the war.

The fourth man (unrelated to the brothers) in the 1911 census was a Waggoner on a farm and in the 1939 Register was a Horseman on a farm.

When these men enlisted, the Fireman joined the Royal Navy as a Stoker (his ship HMS Yarmouth was involved in the Battle of Jutland); the Platelayers became Sappers with the 275th Railway Construction Company of the Royal Engineers; the Waggoner/Horseman joined the Horse Transport Company of the RASC as a Driver.

As each man was allocated a military role that directly mirrored his civilian occupation, did this happen either - because it was a pragmatic decision on the part of the Navy & Army - as he was already fully proficient and would probably need little (if any) training
or - because, as a volunteer, he was allowed to express a preference for his military role?

Willyam

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World War One / 2nd King's Shropshire Light Infantry in the 1911 overseas census
« on: Tuesday 20 March 18 21:41 GMT (UK)  »
I am seeking guidance on how to find the 2nd King's Shropshire Light Infantry in the 1911 overseas census.

It is my understanding that the 2nds were in India at the time but, to date, I have not been able to find them.

Any help will be gratefully received.

Willyam

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Lancashire / United Co-operative Laundries Association (UCLA)
« on: Sunday 12 March 17 13:23 GMT (UK)  »
Hello,

I am currently pursuing a line of (family history) research which relates to the United Co-operative Laundries Association.

My purpose in writing is to ask if anyone has any knowledge of any archived material or associated resources concerning the UCLA.

As the UCLA grew beyond its original ownership by the Failsworth Industrial Co-operative Society, and in December 1911 became an independent federal (co-op) society jointly owned by 10 retail (co-op) societies, there are no direct records (after 1911) within the Failsworth society's archives that are held in the National Co-op archives in Manchester.

All that is held is a booklet, entitled "from clean to gleam", which was produced in 1962 to celebrate the Jubilee of the UCLA. At that time it was jointly owned by no less than 73 retail societies!

Any guidance will be very much appreciated.

Willyam

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