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Hallo everyone - First of all thank you for bothering to read this post.

I am researching my 2nd Great Grandfather, Benjamin Harvey and his descendants.

In particular most of his children from his 2nd marriage to Eliza Partridge.

I think I have completed my research into my Great Grandfather John Thomas Harvey (1862-1931) - as per my Public Tree on ancestry.com - Pezzey Tree

However although I have all the following names of his siblings with their approximate birth dates and Census information from the years - 1861, 1871, 1881 & 1891 - I have been unable to find out what happened to the following children since 1891 - despite visiting the Sandwell Archives personally several times including a couple of weeks ago sadly.  All were born in West Bromwich.

Elizabeth - Q3 1858
David - Q2 1860
Benjamin - Q1 1865
Emily - Q4 1866
Sarah - Q4 1869
Eliza - Q1 1872

I intend to order Digital Images of all of these births from the GRO very soon.

I have most if not all the information about their parents until their deaths included in my profiles of both of them on my Tree.

I am intrigued that my great grandfather seems to be the only child that had a middle name - quite odd and that is one of the reasons I was looking for the other children's baptisms recently. 

In addition, I am a member of Findmypast so have carried out research on that website as well as of course using other very useful websites such as Family Search, FreeBMD & freereg.org.uk and others.

The other problem that has occurred unfortunately is that if they were located in nearby villages and towns such as Oldbury, Halesowen, Rowley Regis etc. that relevant sources could be found under Salop (Shropshire) and Worcestershire especially as the diocese for this area during several years was Worcester Diocese.

Any help in furthering my research into these Great GreatAunts and GreatUncles will be very gratefully received.

Thank you once more for reading this Lookup Request - Samanthator

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Hallo everyone

I have been so lucky to have received amazing help from Rootschat members on other boards so am encouraged to ask for help once more please.

My son has asked me to find where his paternal grandfather - Herbert Gerald Winterburn - is/was buried.

His death occurred in the Leeds area - Vol 2c Page 246 on 23rd February 1962 while he was visiting relatives in Yorkshire.

For many years he had lived in Surrey but he was born in the Harrogate area in 1908.

I have had no luck finding a Probate or Will for him although I have membership of both Ancestry and Find My Past websites.  I have also tried to access Parish Clerks online without success.

I have his profile included in my Family Tree on Ancestry and can provide further information about his life if that would help in researching exactly where he died and was buried.  His ancestors all come from Yorkshire and his siblings have all died in Yorkshire - mainly in the Leeds area, so I am inclined to think he would be buried in that area.  Although his parents lived in Ripon for a while, his mother moved to the Leeds area after her husband died - probably to be near her unmarried daughter and she died there according to the sources I have found.

I would be grateful for any help in this matter - and thank all of you for bothering to read this post.

Samanthator

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This website and its members have been truly amazing to me recently in finding out information for me about some of my family's ancestors and relatives that had emigrated to South Africa and other African countries and so I am inspired by the members generosity in sharing their knowledge to ask once more for their help.

I am trying to trace what happened to my 1st cousin 1x removed and his family.  I don't have any details of his death but am certain it is safe to mention his name in this topic as he would be recorded as the oldest man alive in the World and he isn't!

He was born in Streatham Hill, London on 9 August 1913 to his parents Jeremiah Henry and his wife, Rosina Alice Pezzey.  Rosina was one of my paternal Great-Aunts.

He had an elder brother, Jerrold Pezzey Murphy, who was married to Ida Jane Sutton, and I remember visiting them at least once a year with my parents, Frank Edward & Shelagh Irene Pezzey when they lived in Thames Ditton in Surrey and I knew them as my uncle and aunt although in fact they were also 1st cousins once removed and both of whom died in 1957 and 2009 respectively.

Bryan married in December 1945 in Sheffield - his wife was born in 1917 and I'm not mentioning her name as there is a very slight possibility she could still be alive.

According to family records he was a member of the 4th East Yorkshire Regiment which formed part of the 150th Brigade in WW2 and fought in the Middle East and North Africa.

They emigrated in May 1951 to South Africa.  They bought a farm 5 miles north of Bryanston, Gauteng, SA and eventually was a partner in a big Adhesive Company owning 4 factories in SA.

He and his wife had 3 children, all girls born between 1947 and 1959 - one girl before they emigrated and 2 after they moved to South Africa.

The last information I have about him is that he was living in a retirement village near Bryanston, Johannesburg in January 1993 when he was 79.

Any information about Bryan and members of his family would be very gratefully received and thank you for bothering to read this post.

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Hallo everyone - I have a lengthy request for help in tracing some of my paternal ancestors from the West Midlands.  Rootschat has proved so helpful in the past for tracing members of my family in Northern Ireland, Nigeria, Kenya, Natal and South Africa and I'm sure this forum will come up trumps for me again - so thanks in advance.

My paternal Great Grandfather, John Thomas Harvey, was born on 30 March 1862, baptised 8 February 1863 at Christ Church.  He lived in various places in WB.  He married Emma Evans, born 8 August 1864 in WB, on 8 December 1884 at St. John the Evangelist Church in WB.  The 1911 Census stated that they had 11 children with 7 surviving but I haven't managed to discover any records regarding the 4 children that had died by that date.  In addition, the 1921 Census records show that John Thomas and Emma were living apart - he was still in WB but Emma was in London.

They had the following children -

1 Nellie - Born 11 July 1886 - Baptised 1 August 1886 at St. John's Church -
              I think she moved to London - no idea why but may have had a child in September 1908
              I am fairly positive that she married Louis Walter William Welton on 19 March 1909 at St.
              Martin's in the Fields Church, Westminster, London - they had 2 children but divorced 16
              August 1918.  According to the 1939 Register she was living with her son in Streatham
              Vale, London.  However, I can find no trace of her after this date, so would be grateful for
              any help.

2 Herbert - born October 1887, baptised January 1888, emigrated to Canada in 1913, joined the     
                 RCMP in Regina, Saskatchewan, died and was buried in May 1946. 

3 John Stanley - born 13 December 1890 - died 11 April 1916 somewhere on Western Front and his
                         name is on the Menin Gate Memorial in Ypres as his body has not been found yet.

4 Gladys - born 6 September 1893 - My Grandmother and thanks to Rootschat have found her in the
                Transvaal Civil Deaths Register on 13 February 1939 following her emigration with her
                2nd husband, Walter Southwick, in August 1927.  I have also traced their son, Peter.

5 Doris - Born 11 December 1894 - baptised twice on 29 July 1895 at Christ & St Philip's Churches
              in West Bromwich.  I have found her in the 1901 & 1911 Censuses but had no luck since
              that date - As yet I haven't managed to find her in the 1921 Census - am a member of
              Find My Past as well as Ancestry.com. 

6 Mabel Evelyn - Born 6 January 1896 - Baptised on 1 April 1896 at St Philip's Church in WB.  She
                         appears on the 1901 & 1911 Census but to date not found her on the 1921 Census
                         She was living in London with her Mother, Emma, in 1939, according to Electoral
                         Registers and my Father, Frank Edward, was with them at 42 St. Stephen's
                         Gardens, London, W.2. but can't find her in the 1939 Register.  However she does
                         appear in the Electoral Registers in 1946 and I have both her death and burial
                         noted as 16 & 19 February 1976.  As far as I'm aware she never married.

7 Winifred Constance - Born October 1904 - Vol 6b Page 869 of the Birth Index in West Bromwich.
                                  In the 1911 Census she is living with the family but her name is shown as
                                  Constance only.  The only possible 1921 Census that includes a Winnie isn't
                                  the right one I feel as Winnie is shown as 18 and born in Hockley,
                                  Birmingham - not West Bromwich, although I haven't found a baptism there.
                                  So haven't found any records for her after 1911 at all.

So my request for help relates to -

a - The 4 children that had died before 1911 from John Thomas and Emma's marriage.
b - Why did Emma move to London and when.
c - What happened to Nellie between 1918 to 1939 and after the latter date.
d - Does anyone have information about Doris after the 1911 Census.
e - Mabel Evelyn - where was she between 1911 & 1939 - also from 1946 until her death in 1976.
f - Winifred Constance - any records after her birth in 1904.

Thank you everybody for reading this topic - especially as it is so long and complicated.  Any assistance would be deeply appreciated and I am looking forward to seeing replies as the Rootschat membership is truly awesome in their diligence in researching all requests for help.

Viv Winterburn
                                 

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Other Countries / Nigeria: Gregor Aubrey Graham - later Sir
« on: Tuesday 14 June 22 17:41 BST (UK)  »
Looking for any information about my Great-aunt's husband who she married in 1904 in Portsmouth, Hampshire, England.
I think he must have been born about 1868 (because of ages given in all the sources quoted throughout his lifetime) in UK - maybe Scotland? no idea really.
I have discovered that in 1914 he returned to the UK from Nigeria, West Coast of Africa, according to Passenger List of Karina sailing to Liverpool so he must have already begun his Civil Service in the Nigerian Railways before this date.
From then until definitely 1927 as he was still travelling back to Nigeria after being knighted in that year.
The next source I have discovered is in 1934 when he is found to be in Kenya and his occupation is now Planter - presumably he has retired from the Civil Service due to his age.
Although I know he was in Nigeria for these 13-14 years, I have no knowledge about him during this time except that he worked for the Railways - not sure in what capacity.

Any help in tracing more information about this period of time in Nigeria would be wonderful and very gratefully received by me - so thank you all very much for reading this post.

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Gregor Aubrey Graham was the husband of my Great-Aunt - he was born in UK I think, but certainly married in Portsmouth, Hampshire in 1904. 
He was a Civil Engineer for many years working for the Government Railways in Nigeria from 1916 until 1927 when he was knighted for his services.
I have next found him in Kitale, in the Trans Nzoia electoral area of Kenya where his occupation is stated to be Planter - in 1934 his elder son, was also living in Kitale and he was a Mechanical Engineer according to Voters Poll Lists in the Kenyan Gazette.  The latter then moved to the electoral area of Coast - in particular the Taveta Estate in 1936.
I know that Sir Gregor died in a Nursing Home in Pietersmaritzburg in the Natal in September 1947 after 7 years illness. 
I would be grateful to receive any more information about Sir Gregor as I have a gap from 1938 until his death.
In addition, I haven't been able to find any further trace of his son's whereabouts since 1938 either.  He was born in January 1906 in Southsea, Hampshire, and around in 1911 for the census but not in 1921 with his mother, sister and younger son living in Totnes, Devon.  I have no idea if he married and have no proof either that he has died although this seems likely as he would now be 118 - older than the verified oldest man still alive! so I haven't included his name in this message.
Thank you for bothering to read this message and any help offered will be very gratefully received and appreciated.

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Essex / 1870s onward - Seeley Family - in particular Ada and Frances - Romford, Essex -
« on: Wednesday 14 November 18 16:35 GMT (UK)  »
Hi

Ada and Frances are sisters of my Great-Grandmother Fanny Elizabeth (1861-1952) and I am hoping to find out more information about them.  Ada was born in Q4 1872 and Frances was born in Q2 1875.  However I have no further knowledge about them unfortunately.

Their parents are Thomas (1892-1942) and Sarah Ann Scott (1841-1924) and the other children in the family are - Mary Ann (1860-1942), Amy Matilda (1864-1948), emily (1867-1927), James Henry (1871-1958), Arthur (1878-1928) and George who was born and died in 1881.

Any help would be very gratefully received as although I belong to Ancestry, I think church records for Essex are held by FindMyPast and I would like to know if either married or when they died and where.

Thank you for bothering to read my look-up request.

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Tyrone / James Robb - Born circa 1848 - Died 4 January 1898
« on: Saturday 27 October 18 16:44 BST (UK)  »
Hi Everyone

First of all thank you for reading my post.

I am trying to find out more information about my maternal Great-Grandfather James Robb.

I know that he had died before the 1901 Census as his widow - Mary Ann(e) - nee Taylor was the head of the household at that Census - Crown Copyright from www.NationalArchives.gov.uk.

According to an extract from the Tyrone Constitution Newspaper, he died on 5th January 1898 at Cumber, Fintona, after a lingering illness.  However, I can only find a death for James at Fintona on 4th January 1898 - Vol. 2 Page 193 FHL Film No 101600 - Civil Registration Deaths Index of Ireland 1864-1958.  I only have this information which also states he was aged 50 and therefore was born circa 1848.

I haven't been able to trace his birth unfortunately and would be grateful for any details that can be found about that please.

He married Mary Ann(e) on 8th October 1878 at Omagh 2nd Presbyterian Church in Omagh, Co. Tyrone according to the Ireland Civil Registration Marriages Index 1845-1958 and the witnesses were Neville Taylor (Mary Ann's brother) and Joseph Robb. 

I have no further information about Joseph - is he James' brother?  Again any enlightenment about James' parents - (in a past request on Rootschat I was informed that his father was Arthur and his mother may possibly be Mary Lyons) - and family and ancestors would be very gratefully received.

Thanks again for reading this and for any help you can give me.

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London & Middlesex Lookup Requests / Charlotte Mary Sebright nee Aplin
« on: Friday 11 May 18 21:44 BST (UK)  »
Hallo everyone

I am hoping someone might be able to help me please.

I am trying to trace details of the death and burial of my 2nd great aunt.
 
I know that she died in Quarter 4 in 1933 - Volume 1b Page No 274 - Aged 84 - in Islington - as per Page 234 of the Civil Registration Death Index.

According to the 1932 Electoral Register she was living at 51 Ingleby Road, Upper Holloway, Islington since the 1891 Census - Class RG12 Piece 148 Folio 180.

She was married to John Sebright on 17 August 1873 at Holy Trinity church, Islington as per the Parish Register - Page 220 No 440, and he died in 1897.

Any help or information you can give me would be very gratefully received - thank you.

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